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01-25-2013, 04:53 PM
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So - I need to ask a somewhat indelicate question... what would be a good name for such a group? It will be displayed in various places..
Disabled RV'ers
Handicapped RVing
No Barriers Group
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01-25-2013, 05:31 PM
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#114
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Tough question for today's reality.
Almost anything will upset someone, but as long as everyone understands the intent it should be fine, as they are posted the comments will guide the discussion.
"Next Stage Operators"
"Careing RV Members "
This is going to be harder than you think!
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01-25-2013, 05:43 PM
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#115
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Senior Member
Florida Cooters Club Appalachian Campers Coastal Campers Carolina Campers
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Janet H
So - I need to ask a somewhat indelicate question... what would be a good name for such a group? It will be displayed in various places..
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Special Needs is an evolving term and may be applicable. Wikipedia's first definition is as follows:
In the United States, special needs is a term used in clinical diagnostic and functional development to describe individuals who require assistance for disabilities that may be medical, mental, or psychological.
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2008 HitchHiker Champagne 35LKRSB | 2011 F350 Lariat 6.7PSD | Many great memories!
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01-25-2013, 05:53 PM
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#116
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Location: Rainbow Riding
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Sjbmsu posted this early on
"I am a retired ADA Compliance Officer and would love to be a part of any such forum."
I have PMd - maybe they can help out with this.
And I'm glad to see this moving forward in any way possible.
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2008 Fleetwood Bounder 38F ~ 325 ISB Turbo ~ Freightliner XC 2014 CR-V ~ Invisibrake / Sterling All Terrain
Sioux Falls, SD (FullTime Since Nov 5th 2014)
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01-25-2013, 06:00 PM
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#117
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iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: El Paso, TX
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I think this is a great idea. Can't wait to see what I can learn and apply to making my apprehensions subside.
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01-25-2013, 06:28 PM
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#118
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club Spartan Chassis
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Some suggestions...A few are clearly tongue in cheek but could be sub-titles/mottos
RVing Without Limits
RVing Without Limitations
Limitation Busters
I Ain't Got No Stinkin' Limitations
Special Needs RVing Life Style
Limitless RVing
RVing With Special Needs
No RVers Left Out
Solving the Issues of Special Needs RVers
No Limits RVers
RVers Overcoming Limits/Limitations
RVing is For Everyone
Special Needs Support
Special Needs Road Warriors
Special Needs RVing/RVers
Mobility Masters - Special Needs Support
OK...just tossing out ideas to get others thinking too.
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01-25-2013, 06:45 PM
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#119
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Winnebago Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Location: Evan,CO.
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Sky Boss,
nice!!! Thank You!!
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1998 Winnebago Adventurer
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01-25-2013, 08:05 PM
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#120
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Senior Member
Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Location: Yuma County, AZ
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I propose the name "Breaking down barriers"
Thanks Mods!
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01-25-2013, 08:11 PM
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#121
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Location: Avon Lake, Oh
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Handicapped RVers. That should cover it. Yes there will be arguments about what constitutes a handicap, and the only way to keep it right is to Moderate. Any disability covered under the ADA should be welcomed. It will just have to be moderated for political and religious content like any Forum.
I think the Moderators may be reluctant to start another forum, especially one like this that could be ripe for whining government cutbacks and other political discussion.
I can see the "they cut my disability because the government said the plate in my head wasn't thick enough" thread where all of a sudden the Tricare issue will come up and other government disability cutbacks will be hotly contested.
I can see this as the biggest worry of the Moderators. I don't blame them either. This kind of forum has the biggest chance of constant rules abuse.
I would love to see this forum come about, and will be glad to contribute on a regular basis. This will require a lot of member vigilance and policing.
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01-25-2013, 09:42 PM
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#122
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Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2012
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The phase 'No child left behind" offers a title of "No RV'er left behind"
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2012 JAYCO SENECA 36 FK
Toad- 2015 FORD EDGE
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01-25-2013, 10:53 PM
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#123
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Colorado USA
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A thought might be to have a section for the disability complaints. Please do not "think" a complaints section would be a bad thing. I am an ADVOCATE and have been for 30 plus years and continuing... I can assure you someone's complaint will get the attention of someone else who might have a solution for that person or have contact info that could help the person complaining.
There are many people who have a disability, a lot less who have answers for problems, so a forum would be an excellent place for people with disabilities, their caregivers and even for advocates to provide insights.
I can say this: not all states have the same services to people with disabilities. It's also very sad when a loved one needs a life saving surgery, however the best facility for your loved one to get the life saving surgery that garners the loved ones best chance of survival is 1000 miles and four boarders to cross away is very heartbreaking, it becomes devastating to learn your loved one's insurance will not cover the services if you choose to take that loved one to the best place. So, you find yourself accepting it because you are not aware there are OTHER WAYS if you have the WILL, the KNOWLEDGE and the ABILITY to accomplish and prevail.
Sharing knowledge if powerful. Maybe if all the RVer's who have disabilities of any kind had a place to share, complain, and rejoice it would not be the burden some think it might be. Controlling a disabled person is not a good thing to do, they already have controls placed on them... i.e. they might use a wheelchair, they might not have speech, they might not have hearing, eyesight, hand use, they might have to take medications that fog their thinking abilities, therefore they may not type what you might feel is okay. They are human beings, they have the right to TRY to be apart of society, and they have rights to be a part of social media. Please do not start a forum in which you are going to be a a parent, teacher, or police officer because then you are limiting the very people you set out to help.
If you have NEVER been a caregiver, an advocate or worked with people who have special needs, step aside... and watch. Our lives are not easy, we do what we do for the love of the person with the disability, regardless what the disability might be.
You don't know what it looks like to see a person make a mistake that causes your loved ones disability, you don't what it looks like to see that loved one try to get someone to understand they are upset because they are getting a cut in their disability check because some smart lawmaker creates a cool law that he/she thinks will help our Country, while he/she votes to send more of our funds to a Country that hates America.
We the people have to work together, stick together for the greater good of our Country and this includes accepting and helping people who have disabilities do what the non-disability people do... RVing.
Now I will go back to my Shell....
Oops.... how many know that "grants" can help with RV modifications???? How many realize education grants are not just for young people?????
I have a blog going up with a forum in April as I embarked on an RV trip through America to take my adult son through this Country of ours and show him and teach him about the history, its people, and I can do this because I advocated.
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01-26-2013, 02:24 AM
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#124
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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01-26-2013, 02:49 AM
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#125
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: Jan 2013
Posts: 102
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Thank you Janet for your expertiese
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01-26-2013, 08:29 AM
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#126
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Location: Fair Play, SC
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"If you have NEVER been a caregiver, an advocate or worked with people who have special needs, step aside... and watch. Our lives are not easy, we do what we do for the love of the person with the disability, regardless what the disability might be."
I like the "no rver left behind" term. 13 years ago we put my father in law in a nursing home due to AZ and my mother in law moved in with us. We lost him after a year , he was 80 and we were limited to our travel with my mother in law. She passed away 3 years ago and prior to that she developed dementia 6 years ago. We were homebound for 10 years as were just couldn't leave her alone. Our outside activities were running errands and it go to the point both of us couldn't go out together. I bought a used Class C so we could travel together and visit family in other states. I built a home theatre so we could watch movies and eventually had to give that up as she couldn't seperate from reality. We didn't find out about the "respite" program until it was just too late. Unless we went in the Class C we never left the house together. In July of 2010 we finally had to place her in a nursing home and the next day my wife and I took our first "outing together" in years without paying for a sitter. We went to look at Moho's and stopped at a Pilot Oil/MacDonalds got a cheeseburger. No one but us could appreciate how special that moment was as it was our first dinner date in over 5 years. I would do it all over again for my in laws but until you've been a caregiver you have no idea how small your world becomes. Now when we camp I look those that do and the elderly .....no one can fully appreciate how much RV'ing gives them a lift. The recommendation of a forum or dicussion group is truly a blessing in diguise.
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