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Old 08-22-2010, 01:54 AM   #57
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This only tells me that you are a very poor rider with no observational skills and are not aware of your surroundings. A good rider does not let his bike be put in such dangerous situations. I suggest a safe riding course for you. I have ridden a quiet bike for over 40 years and never came close to being T-Boned. I suppose you also believe that "laying the bike down" would be a good way to avoid an accident?
The noise is always just about immaturity and a "look at me...I'm sooo cool" attitude. The loud pipes save lives is pure BS!
Some people are forgetting what they did when they were in their teens! Joe
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:27 AM   #58
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In my own past motorcycling days, my best defense against brain-dead drivers (yes, there were/are PLENTY!), was a set of the commonly available compact air horns - but of course, *I* had to be extra alert for those drivers still asleep in order to put the air horns to use.

I'll always remember the dear sweet old lady approaching the intersection up ahead - she stopped at the stop sign (my street was a thruway with no stop), looked RIGHT AT ME as I approached - and then started pulling into the intersection right in front of me. I hit the air horns, and she had the most surprised look on her face as she looked again and actually SAW me for the first time, even thought it was a broad, unobstructed street with NO other traffic. Yeah she locked up all 4 wheels as she shook her head in obvious embarrassment and unbelief that she had not seen me until that very moment!

I had similar experiences a number of other times - some comatose drivers simply aren't alert and paying attention - and the biker usually pays for THEIR lack of concentration. Loud pipes make good insurance?

Probably, just too bad they are merely a nuisance to so many the rest of the time!

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Shucks Joe - SOME of us are STILL "teenagers" - in MIND, if not in body - and *I* refuse to grow up!
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I've been riding for 15 years or so. I do believe that the loud pipes make a difference. When riding if put into the blind spot of a driver I appreciate being heard.

Most cagers do not look for bikes. Watch the news and there are story after story of a cager not paying attention and seriously injuring or killing a biker.

All it takes is some consideration of others. Lay off the throttle...idle in and out. Now, how many cagers are doing anything or everything except driving and paying attention? "I didn't see him..." Open your freaking eyes and pay attention. Put the food, cell phone, makeup, ipod, or whatever else down and drive.

You may have a dent in your car but I will be dead. As soon as all of the cagers hang up and drive I will swap out my pipes. Till then you will hear me on the road.

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This thread has changed from the OP. He was, as I remember, not talking about freeway riding. Sure it makes some sense on the street. I think we were talking about loud pipes/NOISE in campgrounds.. IOW, being totally inconsiderate. The operating word here is "inconsiderate" I have moderately loud pipes on my Ultra.. and I can ride thru a campground and make a lot of noise..or I can ride thru that same campground and it wouldn't be very noisey at all. Sure, it's relative compared to a 'wing' but.. we can be considerate.. or inconsiderate. Course, this is my own "unhumble" opinion (IMUO)

nuff said??
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Welcome to IRV2 , I have been riding some 47 yrs and have had my fair share of close calls, You are 100% on the money with your post.
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What's a bike without a little rumble. We were all young once. (I'm making an assumption) Joe
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You are correct, there is no other sound as good as a Motorcyle, MADE IN THE USA.
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This thread has changed from the OP. He was, as I remember, not talking about freeway riding. Sure it makes some sense on the street.

nuff said??
You have to realize that the biker pulling thru the CG, just came OFF a freeway - and quite likely not inclined to swap pipes up at the CG intrance to molify the few RVers who choose to take offense at that "damn racket!"...

Ever been "entertained" by the smell and sound of a mega-buck diesel MH pulling out of a CG early in the morning? Would we suggest that THEY install a small well-muffled supplemental gasser engine for their in-CG maneuvers - so as to not annoy other RVers?

Not very practical, is it!

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You have to realize that the biker pulling thru the CG, just came OFF a freeway - and quite likely not inclined to swap pipes up at the CG intrance to molify the few RVers who choose to take offense at that "damn racket!"...

Ever been "entertained" by the smell and sound of a mega-buck diesel MH pulling out of a CG early in the morning? Would we suggest that THEY install a small well-muffled supplemental gasser engine for their in-CG maneuvers - so as to not annoy other RVers?

Not very practical, is it!

Nuff said?
How about the guy who finds it necessary to run his generator "ALL DAY" just to power up his blender?

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MADE IN THE USA.
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That cracks me up.

Majority of stock is French owned
Manufactured in China
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Assembled in the US

It's just Nostalgic and there's nothing wrong with that but the "Made in USA" sticker is a stretch. My 63 Panhead on the other hand was in fact made here but what POS engineering that thing was. I remember when the blockhead was first introduced in 84, the test riders were fascinated with the fact that it finally charged it's own battery! One giant leap for mankind
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That cracks me up.

Majority of stock is French owned
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It's just Nostalgic and there's nothing wrong with that but the "Made in USA" sticker is a stretch.
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What major components are made in China?
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You have to realize that the biker pulling thru the CG, just came OFF a freeway - and quite likely not inclined to swap pipes up at the CG intrance to molify the few RVers who choose to take offense at that "damn racket!"...

Ever been "entertained" by the smell and sound of a mega-buck diesel MH pulling out of a CG early in the morning? Would we suggest that THEY install a small well-muffled supplemental gasser engine for their in-CG maneuvers - so as to not annoy other RVers?

Not very practical, is it!

Nuff said?
Wow Gary.. Hit me between the eyes and call me stupid. Did I not say that I can ride my Ultra thru the campground quietly or loudly? There is a choice.. "Screw the world" or "courtesy." All riders have that choice no matter what pipes they have. At an almost idle speed, the loud ones aren't too bad. Unfortunately, pushers can't do much about their noise.. except shorten significantly the "warm up time" that really isn't necessary any more.
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The doppler effect sort of negates the idea of noise alerting those in front of the bike hearing much if anything. Those behind and beside the bike will definitely hear it. The faster you go the less the noise will be heard in front of the bike. Loud pipes saves lives has never carried much weight with me. That said there are pipes you can get that are louder than stock but not window breakers allowing the rider to adjust for performance and smoothness while maintaining an acceptable decibel level. When I modify the exhaust on any of my bikes it is for performance, not noise. We all ride our own rides and I guess it is where you want to be . There is nothing like a nice sounding motor to make your day though!
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