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01-22-2013, 06:41 PM
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I forgot to add, " if the good Lord's willin' and the creek don't rise."
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01-22-2013, 07:08 PM
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Location: Small Town USA , California
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I don't agree with why they are separate, in your Stick/Brick home they all flow together , so would they need to flow separate in a RV ? I think it comes from the early days of RVing where more people dumped their gray water on the ground, and basically they let tent campers throw out their dish water in the bushes, brush their teeth and spit it in the bushes too
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01-22-2013, 07:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by toneumanns
I sometimes wish there was a way to transfer some of the gray water to the black water tank as our gray water fills up much faster than the black tank.
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I have a 29RK Alpenlite, each of the three waste tanks are 50 gal. One for Kitchen, Bath and Black. At the end of a 4 day trip to a State Park, the Kitchen would be at 25%, the Black just over 25% and the Bath would be near Full. Didn't seem fair. Wanting to increase the Bath 'overall capacity', I installed a TEE fitting and connected the shower drain line to the Black tank via a cabled valve so it can be opened when needed to divert the shower to the Black tank.
Used it for the first time this past weekend and it worked fine. Have a SeeLevel tank monitoring system to install next to get a better idea of what the tanks are doing.
Was an easy mod on my unit as everything was open and easy to get to. Overall the cost was less than $90, with the valve being $58 of that.
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01-22-2013, 08:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickO
That certainly makes sense and I'm all for keeping black water as far away from my sink as possible. But, how does having a single RV holding tank differ from a septic tank arrangement in a stick house?
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Because you are not dumping sewage 2 1/2 feet below into a bucket in your stick house...
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01-22-2013, 08:12 PM
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Location: Fulltime, USA
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A conspiracy to sell more tanks and valves and plumbing. Simple.
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01-22-2013, 08:51 PM
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Location: Southwest, usually
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Black water is always kept closed until near full. You can keep the grey open. If you have an on-board washer/dryer you'll appreciate the difference...
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01-23-2013, 06:41 AM
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Location: West Michigan
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Thank you for all your answers. Now my wife, and I, have a better informed opinion. Now that I have gotten all your "crappy" answers I'm done.
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01-23-2013, 07:31 AM
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I guess letting shower grey water go into the black would be ok IF you used it regularly...
But you wouldn't want the water in the shower drains p-trap to evaporate while in storage
or the black tanks 'smells, etc..' will back up into the rv - yech
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01-23-2013, 07:55 AM
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Monaco Owners Club Texas Boomers Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkQ
An RV tank is a closed system (until opened to dump) with the only outlet back from whence it came..
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Actually not so.. Each tank has a "vent" which is open all the time (where would the air in the tank go when water was rushing in?)
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01-24-2013, 08:39 AM
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You are very correct, sir. I was thinking of where things would back up first. Vents would be a necessary feature.
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01-25-2013, 12:06 AM
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Location: Kingston, Wa. USA
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I didn't think much about it, but what I did think was more tanks was easier to balance the trailer. Our TT has 4 tanks, a fresh, black & 2 grey. The fresh is in the back under the bed. The black & 1 grey is over the axles. The other grey is in the front under the kitchen sink.
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01-25-2013, 02:47 PM
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Distribution of weight? Keep all even keel while towing?
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01-25-2013, 03:10 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnBoyToo
I guess letting shower grey water go into the black would be ok IF you used it regularly...
But you wouldn't want the water in the shower drains p-trap to evaporate while in storage
or the black tanks 'smells, etc..' will back up into the rv - yech
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On occasion I have found myself at end of shower standing in a couple inches of water as grey tank has filled up. Don't think I'd like that with black tank😷
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