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Old 03-20-2016, 02:36 PM   #1
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How do electric awnings lock?

We bought a new TT with an electric awning and I'm used to my old A&E manual awning on our old TT. I used to take a big electrical tie and wrap it around the arms when we would travel just for extra security.

The new awning has no real lock. The salesmen assured me that when it's closed it's locked. I just don't want to be going through the CBBT in VA and see my awning get ripped off. I may just be overly cautious.
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Do a Google search for RV travel locks. I came up with this web site where they sell a kit(s) for various models of awnings to lock the awning roller from turning. Here it is: Which RV Awning Travel Lock Do I Need? There are a couple other ways to lock the awning or prevent a awning from unfurling but this seems to be the most simple.
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I lost a Dometic (A&E) Power Awning due to wind. Weather reports were saying wind gust were reaching 80 kph (50 mph) and I should have known better and stayed put. But we only had 100 klms to get home so we set out. Had only been on the road for about 15 minutes with the passenger side to the wind when we heard a loud rumble on the roof. All except the front mounting arm was gone. Fortunately my insurance is paying for the replacement which should be here any day now. I will be checking with the RV service centre that will be doing the install about an additional lock to keep this from happening again.
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We bought a new TT with an electric awning and I'm used to my old A&E manual awning on our old TT. I used to take a big electrical tie and wrap it around the arms when we would travel just for extra security.

The new awning has no real lock. The salesmen assured me that when it's closed it's locked. I just don't want to be going through the CBBT in VA and see my awning get ripped off. I may just be overly cautious.
Wrapping stuff around the awning arms does absolutely nothing to stop the canopy from unfurling. Only stopping the roller from moving does that.

And, while I am not a legal expert, I have given a deposition in a wrongful death case regarding awning unfurling.
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Wrapping stuff around the awning arms does absolutely nothing to stop the canopy from unfurling. Only stopping the roller from moving does that.

And, while I am not a legal expert, I have given a deposition in a wrongful death case regarding awning unfurling.
It may not keep the fabric tube from coming un done but It will keep the awning arms from coming down and hitting a bridge etc and ripping the bolts out of the camper. Each to his own.

And what does giving a deposition have anything to do with what I'm asking?
Not trying to be rude but I don't follow you on that one.
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It may not keep the fabric tube from coming un done but It will keep the awning arms from coming down and hitting a bridge etc and ripping the bolts out of the camper. Each to his own.

And what does giving a deposition have anything to do with what I'm asking?
Not trying to be rude but I don't follow you on that one.
If the awning roller can't turn then the arms won't extend either.

You're kidding right?
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If the awning roller can't turn then the arms won't extend either.

You're kidding right?
No I'm not kidding. If the cam lock on a manual awing breaks or strips the awning is free to move the fabric can also spin on the roller tube. I have replaced my fabric before so I know how it works.

I now have a power awning and I was asking about locks if there are any. Or if there is any concern with power awnings coming unraveled going down the road. NOT a debate on weather it makes since to use a strap to hold awning arms in place. THANK YOU
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No OEM Power Awnings have locks that I am aware of, at least in the low range and mid range priced RVs. Would not surprise if the half million dollar premium RVs have something better. Given the 100s of thousands on the road it seems to be quite OK if only 1 or 2 out of 100s of thousands have failed on the road.

That said, it is possible to not quite get the power awning fully retracted if one does not hold down the power awning button long enough. I don't think there is any positive indication that it's fully in at least that's the case on my Winnebago's power awning.
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2500HD,,, I think you posted a Great question !!! I asked that very same thing a couple weeks ago when we bought this new 5th wheel. With our old MH, I used velcro straps around the 'manual' awning just for saftey sake. Now we have an electric awning, and I'll be looking at a "manual" way of securing it, as like you I guess , I don't want trouble when it can be avoided. If you come up with a answer, Please repost here. Thanks,,,, Monkey
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Do a Google search for RV travel locks. I came up with this web site where they sell a kit(s) for various models of awnings to lock the awning roller from turning. Here it is: Which RV Awning Travel Lock Do I Need? There are a couple other ways to lock the awning or prevent a awning from unfurling but this seems to be the most simple.
I think this is the answer everyone is looking for. I'm sure there are other solutions in addition to this. Thank you for all the replies thus far.
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Good question. My Dometic electric has no visible way to lock down the arms or the roller. My best guess is the roller cannot unfurl because it is directly connected to the electric motor in the roller and cannot overcome the mechanical advantage of the motor. Again, my best guess.
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My Carefree Eclipse electric awning has anti-unfurl tabs built into the roller tube and these ostensibly will prevent unfurling while traveling. Maybe, and we've not had a problem in 10 years of extensive travel.

The Carefree and the Dometic (A&E) electrics have substantially different arm mechanisms. Both, though, basically rely on the motor to overcome outward arm tension and hold the awning in the furled position. In other words, spring or pneumatic pressure pushes the awning out as the motor unwinds the tube. As long as the motor doesn't turn, the awning tube can't unroll. The motor is very high torque and low speed, so is highly resistant to movement.
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My Carefree Eclipse electric awning has anti-unfurl tabs built into the roller tube and these ostensibly will prevent unfurling while traveling. Maybe, and we've not had a problem in 10 years of extensive travel.

The Carefree and the Dometic (A&E) electrics have substantially different arm mechanisms. Both, though, basically rely on the motor to overcome outward arm tension and hold the awning in the furled position. In other words, spring or pneumatic pressure pushes the awning out as the motor unwinds the tube. As long as the motor doesn't turn, the awning tube can't unroll. The motor is very high torque and low speed, so is highly resistant to movement.
Gary, you always give great replies!
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