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I drive them 'til the tread is less than 1/8", no age 4 3.13%
I drive them until 6-8 years old, then replace them all 78 60.94%
I drive them until tread wear is showing, then R&R 2 1.56%
I drive them until I see age signs, like checking 29 22.66%
I drive them until one blows out, then I look REAL hard 2 1.56%
I drive them and replace the steering ones sooner. 5 3.91%
I replace the steering tires earlier than the back four 8 6.25%
I don't keep it long enough to worry about or care... 0 0%
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Old 07-31-2014, 09:26 AM   #71
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...designed it flexes more than it should in a smaller area of the sidewall. This will cause a catastrophic failure if it is allowed to go on long enough. Really evident in older tires that have had embrittlement set in which in many cases is not readily apparent from the outside of the tire.

I will not run tires that are more than for years old nor will allow new tires that are over a year old to be installed on my vehicles. Also use nitrogen as a fill.

In short if you are running tires more than 5 years old you are fighting the odds. Uncle will not use a aircraft tire over 3 years old. Always Always look at the DOT number to determine the age of the tire. Heat cycles also play into this---mileage is exclusive when it come to judging tire life...
I generally dont believe posts like these simply because the money/time factor involved and the overall obtuseness of the supposition. Your 4 year tire rule is utterly absurd and if all you do is worry about tire age then you have a very, very, very uneventful life. Id wager you dont have Uncle Sams unlimited deep pockets, either. Pretty sure even the most expensive RV costs a fraction of a passenger or military aircraft. To apply the same maintenance schedules or benchmarks to pedestrian vehicles is fruitless and expensive and pure fantasy. I have very detail organized mechanic friends and even they want every mile out of the rubber wrapped around their wheels (and then some) even if they are 20+ years old vintage aged tires.
In a typical week I drive 3-5 different vehicles. Mostly rentals but some fleet, & loaners. I have never taken the time to date code the tires or even check the air pressure. I'm more mechanically inclined than most.
Im sure as hell not putting new tires on every vehicle my behind gets into.

Your "empirical" research has so many holes in it that it smells like cheese. But it makes for nice discussion fodder.

FYI... my coach has 9yr old michelins and most will see their 10th year of service in 2015. I figured out the time & cost of roadside service is cheaper than going to local shops that want to charge $150 more per tire for a casual appointment.
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Old 08-01-2014, 08:07 AM   #72
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Todd--as they say your throat your razor. I have spoken and had detailed discussions over many years with the design engineers not only the military side of the house but the passenger/commercial side of the house with Goodyear, Michelin and Dunlop not to mention our own engineers.

You might want to do the research of what the DOT has to say about this as well. Might just be surprised. My schedules to change tires is aggressive however, I do not have tire problems.

To each his own.

Might just watch this and do some additional research this is not to detailed but will give you quite a few specifics. Number of heat cycles also will impact the service life. This is not a simple subject because there are so many variable. The biggest of which is Air Pressure!

http://www.kctv5.com/story/21136701/...otect-yourself
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I replaced my front 2 years ago.Last year did the back. Fronts where 8 years when replaced,rears where 10 years old. I had no problems before, original tires still where like new{ Goodyears] lots of tread no cracks. Hope the new ones last as good.[ Michelin and Hankooks]
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Todd--as they say your throat your razor. I have spoken and had detailed discussions over many years with the design engineers not only the military side of the house but the passenger/commercial side of the house with Goodyear, Michelin and Dunlop not to mention our own engineers.

You might want to do the research of what the DOT has to say about this as well. Might just be surprised. My schedules to change tires is aggressive however, I do not have tire problems.

To each his own.
Not sure what to tell you about engineers. I work with a few of them... some have good insight & others, well, their reasoning leaves one wondering how they get through the day.
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Not sure what to tell you about engineers. I work with a few of them... some have good insight & others, well, their reasoning leaves one wondering how they get through the day.
Yup - there are some who are good with book learning but dummer than hammers when it comes to common sense and practical application of the standards. It is cheaper and safer in the short and long term for them to "CYA" as much as possible. Costs them nothing to overbuild and the downside if they dont is they are called on the carpet. Hard to trust anyone who has a vested interest in the outcomes.
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