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Old 05-19-2013, 05:12 PM   #1
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How to install gas prop on entry door ?

How do I place the brackets on our entry door for a gas prop when none exsists now ?? I have the parts,,, but it only has a two piece flat bar that only keeps the door from opening too far.. It does nothing to hold the door open. I'd hate to get them too close together to keep the door from closing is my dilemma.. Easy enough for the extension part because the door is open... Thanks bunches !!
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Old 05-19-2013, 05:30 PM   #2
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Since being sure it closes is most important, I think I would choose install points when closed, then before attaching BOTH ends, experiment to see how far it would open using those points. Seems the key would be how long the prop/spring extension is.
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Since being sure it closes is most important, I think I would choose install points when closed, then before attaching BOTH ends, experiment to see how far it would open using those points. Seems the key would be how long the prop/spring extension is.
Thanks Paul,,, but how do you see where to attatch the brackets with the door closed ???
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I would try to mark w/pencil on the frame/door where each end needs to be ...the hard part is that the prop needs to be compressed at that point. The specs of the prop should give you a "compressed/closed" length. With the difficulty of getting the prop compressed, careful measuring to ensure the mount points are slightly further apart than the compressed length should do it.

Are you sure a gas prop is what you want? Are the parts you got part of a "kit" etc designed for entry door use?
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I would try to mark w/pencil on the frame/door where each end needs to be ...the hard part is that the prop needs to be compressed at that point. The specs of the prop should give you a "compressed/closed" length. With the difficulty of getting the prop compressed, careful measuring to ensure the mount points are slightly further apart than the compressed length should do it.

Are you sure a gas prop is what you want? Are the parts you got part of a "kit" etc designed for entry door use?
The gas prop is what a friend with another "rare" Europa like I have installed.(replaced) ... This is what we want,,, to hold the door open... Now it blows open/closed with the wind... This gas prop is a 20" 10lb from rv designers,,, the same as my friend sent me part numbers for. His was there already, mine is not. Thanks again,,, Monkey
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Old 05-19-2013, 09:28 PM   #6
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10lb would probably be good ...you might actually able to compress that one and get an overall compressed length. I just put a 120lb on one of my storage doors ...no way I could compress it!!

Since your friend has one installed, perhaps having him do some careful measurements and photos of his installation would be very helpful to you. Our coach has nothing to keep the door open in the wind either ...that kind of assist would be helpful.
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I had this done on my coach recently. Put one bracket on the top of the door frame (the part screwed into the coach wall) close to the hinge side of the door. Have the door open all the way, and then hold the strut up against the top of the door, with the end that attaches to the frame located where the top bracket would go, and mark the door where the other end of the strut touches the door. Close the door and measure your mark to the frame bracket. As long as that number is larger than the compressed measure of the strut, you should be good to go.
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Due to the slides our struts are mounted on the door frame in a bracket that has angled slots in it, when open with the slides out they go 90, with the slides in I just pull up on the door and the latch goes into the upper slot and open about 150. They're nicely made and black crackle painted. Standard Newmar part on our 2002.
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Thanks for all the helpful responses !! I really appreciatte the help !!
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I got it installed today !! Although it is recomended to use a 10lb prop for an entry door, I could see a 20lb wouldn't hurt, as we tend to travel out west where the wind is bad !! But it works.. Much better than the two piece flat bar. Thanks for the help.
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PS, I think it will cure the rattle we had which I'm pretty sure was that two piece bar...
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Sure could use pictures and part numbers.

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I got it installed today !! Although it is recomended to use a 10lb prop for an entry door, I could see a 20lb wouldn't hurt, as we tend to travel out west where the wind is bad !! But it works.. Much better than the two piece flat bar. Thanks for the help.
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PS, I think it will cure the rattle we had which I'm pretty sure was that two piece bar...
We had to use 2 65lb struts on our wet bay door and was just barely enough!
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Sure could use pictures and part numbers.

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Sorry I didn't follow up... Here are the parts I used.....
Amazon.com: RV Designer Collection G21 20" 10-lb Gas Prop: Automotive

Amazon.com: RV Designer Collection G815 Flat Gas Prop Bracket - Pair: Automotive
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