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Old 08-08-2013, 07:40 PM   #127
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One would think that you wouldnt have to explain that. Sad.


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Each Passport America campground has it's own restrictions. The idea is to fill sites that would otherwise be empty. Many of the costs of a campground are fixed like mortgage, taxes, insurance, ETC. They go on no matter what. The variable cost like water, sewage, electricity, happen only when a site is full. When a site empty, no revenue is earned. I have heard from owners that the variable costs are around $3.00. When a half price site is rented, a whole lot goes to defray the fixed costs of the campground instead of nothing. There is no way that a smart campground owner would do a discount during the weekend of a NASCAR race, but a summer weekend in Florida is welcome income. Hence the restrictions which are set not by Passport America, but by each individual campground. It is a win win situation. We have used PPA well over 100 times. We have found that the quality range of parks is about the same as the over all range of all campground. Belonging can save you big bucks. They also have a Smart Phone app.
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:16 PM   #128
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I think Passport America is a great deal. I just renewed for $34/year. One or two campground stays and you've paid for the membership. As I said before, given the choice between a WalMart or a PPA campground at $12-$15/ night, PPA wins hands down!
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Old 08-08-2013, 09:21 PM   #129
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If it is hot and you need to run your AC with the generator at Wal-Mart, that costs about $2.50/hour in fuel. You can get well beyond a PPA rate real quick.
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If it is hot and you need to run your AC with the generator at Wal-Mart, that costs about $2.50/hour in fuel. You can get well beyond a PPA rate real quick.
True. But most of is don't have generators. An issue with a lot of people I spoke to is how far from the Interstates most CGs/Resorts are. OTOH, how close and convenient the rest areas, truck stops and WMs are. Who wants to drive an extra 20+ or more miles, and PAY, just to plug in, grab a bite to eat, and sleep?

When people are tired in the evening the last thing many of us want to do is start looking for a CG in the booklet or online that will give us a break on price, then start looking for it in the dark many miles from the Interstate. Or being forced to stop before we're ready, or way past when we want to stop, because no CG in the system is where we feel like stopping. And that's the beauty of WMs, TSs and RAs... there are so many of them right by the Interstates and other main arteries that you can stop when you're ready and not have to take out the GPS and start driving into strange countryside in the dark looking for a CG..... been there, done that - no thanks!

We don't do any real traveling in summer where we would need A/C at night. if we did, perhaps finding a CG would be more important to us.
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I think Passport America is a great deal. I just renewed for $34/year. One or two campground stays and you've paid for the membership. As I said before, given the choice between a WalMart or a PPA campground at $12-$15/ night, PPA wins hands down!
We can easily afford to pay a CG to spend the night after picking up dinner at WalMart or a restaurant. I bet all the other RVers in these places can also. We see some nice rigs. But why pay to just sleep? We don't need hookups for the night. Finding a CG close to the Interstate when we're ready to stop for the night has been almost impossible. For example, there are none handy along I-75 in GA until we're at the FL line or close to it. Maybe your state has CGs close to the I's, but that isn't everywhere.
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..... There is no way that a smart campground owner would do a discount during the weekend of a NASCAR race, but a summer weekend in Florida is welcome income.

Hence the restrictions which are set not by Passport America, but by each individual campground. It is a win win situation.
For the CG, yes. They get something for a site that would bring nothing. I can understand that. And if the CG is on your way to somewhere else - good for you too.

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I guess it depends on what kind of camping and traveling you do. It's not suitable for everyone. We don't do weekends. We camp either one or two weeks at a time and 3 months in FL for the winter. We get the monthly rate in FL.

Getting a discount for the first few days wouldn't save us anything since we get a 50% senior discount at all COE CGs for the 2 weeks they allow people to stay. And it wouldn't pay to stay somewhere far from home just for a PA discount. I remember the Nashville CW offering some kind of discount camping thing but the CG was 150 miles from where we live! Nothing was closer.
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I would think as you are tooling down the interstate somewhere in the early part of the days travel you would have an idea how miles you intend to drive that day. This is where the co-pilot comes in using a map, atlas, gps, Woodall's Guide's, Good Sam, smart phone or any other resource to be able to find a CG for the night(s). Granted, some areas which are more rural than other parts of the country they may be to far away from the highway and the same resources can be used to find rest stops. However, as far as Wal Marts go, I have yet to see one out in the middle of no where. I would think where there are Wal Marts there must be CG's not to far away. I can see using WM's a night here and there, especially if the driving part of the day was long and high mileage, but to use them as substitute CG's all the time just does not seem like "camping" to me.
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Passport America list 7 campgrounds between Perry and Valdoesta. We have stayed at several as well as the Wal-Mart in Perry. See link below.

https://www.passportamerica.com/campgrounds/ga

You can zoom in and go to their website also. On the smart phone app, you can link to RVParkreviews.com and the GPS function can tell you how far and give you turn by turn directions right to the entrance.
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There is a really nice state park near Valdosta, Reed Bingham State Park. They have some full hook up sites and are not far from the interstate.
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We have stayed there. Very nice.
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I don't want to pay more than $20 a night anywhere. And I'm willing to not have
Playground
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When I stay somewhere we are out doing things and only need hookups and garbage service. Everyone has different needs, mine are small so I'm not willing to go someplace like koa.
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That's why lots of cg you pull into are former KOA, now generic cg. About the drunken sailor, no offense taken. I understand that the new navy does not tolerate that now. Whar's happineng to our world? Where are the days of wooden ships and iron men?
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Of course you can also volunteer and get a full hook up
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The Corp of Engineers on the Black Warrior/Tombigbee project have a continuing need for volunteer hosts. The project is all volunteer next season. 6 campground and 2 day use area are staffed this way.
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That's why lots of cg you pull into are former KOA, now generic cg. About the drunken sailor, no offense taken. I understand that the new navy does not tolerate that now. Whar's happineng to our world? Where are the days of wooden ships and iron men?
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