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Old 12-23-2011, 02:51 PM   #15
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Seems to me that Wasp/hornet spray would be a good choice. It sprays in a stream quite a ways and is pretty dang noxious. I'm sure there are other options of noxious stuff that sprays in a stream--brake parts cleaner for example--that could work too. All it takes is a little bit in the eyes to slow 'em down and make the 'tire checker' a better option.

Awareness and gut checks are the first line of defense in any case. At least that's what I learned in a personal defense class a few years ago.

If you plan to defend yourself with something be sure everyone knows about it and, if used, USE IT 110%. Don't just get the bad guy mad. Use the stuff like you mean it, really, really mean it.
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Old 12-23-2011, 03:14 PM   #16
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The OP has specifically stated he does not want to consider, at least at this time, the use of guns for protection. Any mention of guns will be considered Off Topic and will be deleted.

Thanks for understanding.

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Old 12-23-2011, 03:20 PM   #17
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Unless you practice a lot, a crossbow is very inaccurate.
Plus it's really hard to get off a quick second bolt! And, if it passes clear through a man then it doesn't impart much kinetic energy (knock down power) into the target. Yes, it will leave a hole, but then how long will it take to incapacitate the perp?
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Old 12-23-2011, 03:32 PM   #18
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Lots of good ideas.Did not see Bear Spray in any comments(not the cheep stuff this cost about 30 to 40 bucks a can and will stop about any thing) A lot of the things discused you should be careful having them around young kids(Polson can kill as eazy as guns)What ever you deside to do make sure training is a big part of it.
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Try a cane/umbrella like these: (There are many manufacturers to choose from, this is just an example. Google sword canes)

Sword Canes - Buy Sword Canes and Historical Sword Canes from BudK
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Old 12-23-2011, 06:51 PM   #21
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Try a cane/umbrella like these: (There are many manufacturers to choose from, this is just an example. Google sword canes)

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Might want to be careful with these, some can be termed an AOW (Any Other Weapon) by the BATF and require a Federal license to possess. It's only $5 as I remember but still takes months to get the background checks done.
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Might want to be careful with these, some can be termed an AOW (Any Other Weapon) by the BATF and require a Federal license to possess. It's only $5 as I remember but still takes months to get the background checks done.
I personally carry a machete for chopping down the underbrush.
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Thought I answered this, Perhaps in another family of forums.

In the movie "Six Pack" Kenny Rogers has to defend aginst some attackers. He grabbed his dry powder fire extinguisher.. IF you are choking on a face full of baking soda, kind of hard to be agressive. Gives the intended victim time to skedaddle.

Personally... (I have several extinguishers about including 2 dry powder and 2 liquid), I believe the best defense is eyes, ears, and mind.

If you pull into an area you are considering for the night,,, and get a bad feeling.. MOVE ON, do not park there. I have been in a Flying-J where I moved on, A Wall-mart where I moved on.. And a few other places where I moved on. So far.. I can not say that moving on saved me any grief.. But I'm 100% sure it did not cause any.
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I also favor bear spray. It is very effective on ALL varmits! You don't have to be that accurate with it. Two things to watch out for 1) It is orange and will stain anything it contacts. 2) make sure of the wind direction. If anyone travels into Canada make sure the can is marked "bear spray" or "bear deterrent" This makes it legal to import with you. If the can only says pepper spray, mace or for personal protection it is illegal. Same stuff different label, go fiqure.
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Long range hornet/wasp jet spray. Up to 27' range.
If you have a gun are you really going to start blasting away at an intruder in the middle of the night? His adrenilin is pumping and your half asleep. Is it you wife or an intruder when you shoot. You hesitate and he doesn't. Not good for your health
Spray em with wasp spray. If it turns out to be your wife, you can always say "SORRY DEAR" rather than having to bury her.
As for an intruder that has been Wasp spayed, stick a fork in him, he's done
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If you go with a Sword Cane, don't forget you have it an try and board an Aircraft!! Big trouble if you do.
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For those advocating wasp spray use for self defense. DW and I took a self defense course for seniors (no guns) last year that covered things like startling or overpowering for a moment (long enough to escape or get help) a stronger, faster assailant. During the course the instructor said not to use wasp spray. He claimed that there had been no practical verification of its effectiveness. Another point was that the use of insecticides are strictly regulated by federal law. Use of the wasp spray for self defense could open up a real can of worms both from a federal sense and a liability sense.

I will agree that when desperate anything that works is the right thing but for us, wasp spray did not seem a wise thing to plan on using. I am certainly no expert and one of the things DW and I decided was that, unarmed, we were probably dead meat if confronted by a crazed 200 lb. young man. I cannot really argue pro or con, but I am just passing this along.
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Most of the replies have addressed a human threat. If you are concerned about a wide range of threats, then you may have to diversify your remedies. A machete, for example, could be an effective deterrent when confronting a human. It will not be a deterrent to a rattlesnake and will require you to be way to close should you try to use it. A good defensive tool will allow you to handle the issue from beyond the reach of the threat. And it should be something that you can be reasonably sure of hitting your target with the first time. It is also important that you can be reasonably sure that if you hit the target and that you incapacitate the target for at least long enough to get out of the situation. Perhaps one of the sprays might be a good choice, but I could not guarantee you that something that works on insects or mammals would work on reptiles. In your shoes I would take the suggestions that appear to be along the lines you are comfortable with and do a bunch of research to determine which I would choose.
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