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Old 03-01-2011, 10:40 AM   #365
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Old 03-01-2011, 10:56 AM   #366
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Actually, the bottom line was 'media scare'... same as it is now.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:27 AM   #367
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I've been following this topic for some time now....It'll HURT to pump 70 gal. into the rig and know I'll only get 500-600 miles I'll drive slower, use the toad more, and stay a lot longer in each spot. We didn't go out this year from central Minnesota and I'm suffering greatly from cabin fever. The weekend jaunt to a campground 150 miles away will be cut way back, and the state park just down the road will be used a great deal more.
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:28 PM   #368
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Folks in threads like this who express only limited concern over rising fuel costs probably do so for several reasons.

1. Lack of priorities in regards to their personal finances - what caused most of the worlds current financial ills.

2. They are truly wealthier than average - and fuel cost IS a low priority issue.

3. Some like my wife and I are at the end of our lifespan, have worked hard and save all our lives fur THIS small moment in time - our "Golden Years". In our situation, we have about 5 years (perhaps) of decent health and mobility for RV travels - maybe 10 if we're extra lucky.

Our kids are all grown and individually well off on their own, and don't need the accumulated $$$ we have set aside for this time in our lives. I'd far rather USE our savings for their intended purpose while we're still able, rather than sit around counting it - or planning to leave it to the kids who don't need it - or the government that will waste it.

Bad times ahead? YUP, I'm pretty sure of it - but hopefully, due to our ages, and what we DO have saved - I'm hoping the worse of what's coming will arrive after we're no longer here to suffer under it - meanwhile, our most pertinent chore is to enjoy what we have to the best of our ability, and at the same time keep ourselves and others who are willing to pay attention, informed as to the daily events unfolding all around us...
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Folks in threads like this who express only limited concern over rising fuel costs probably do so for several reasons.

1. Lack of priorities in regards to their personal finances - what caused most of the worlds current financial ills.

2. They are truly wealthier than average - and fuel cost IS a low priority issue.

3. Some like my wife and I are at the end of our lifespan, have worked hard and save all our lives fur THIS small moment in time - our "Golden Years". In our situation, we have about 5 years (perhaps) of decent health and mobility for RV travels - maybe 10 if we're extra lucky.

Our kids are all grown and individually well off on their own, and don't need the accumulated $$$ we have set aside for this time in our lives. I'd far rather USE our savings for their intended purpose while we're still able, rather than sit around counting it - or planning to leave it to the kids who don't need it - or the government that will waste it.

Bad times ahead? YUP, I'm pretty sure of it - but hopefully, due to our ages, and what we DO have saved - I'm hoping the worse of what's coming will arrive after we're no longer here to suffer under it - meanwhile, our most pertinent chore is to enjoy what we have to the best of our ability, and at the same time keep ourselves and others who are willing to pay attention, informed as to the daily events unfolding all around us...
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Old 03-01-2011, 05:54 PM   #370
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If gas reaches $5.00/gal are you done?
Could anyone afford $5.00 a gallon gas?
And as far as rationing, would anyone even consider traveling much less take the risk of starting out and getting stranded??
When the time comes I'll let you know.

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Old 03-01-2011, 09:27 PM   #371
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I bought diesel and LP today at our local Chevron Station. Diesel here in Arizona is $4.00 and LP is $4.06.
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Old 03-01-2011, 11:37 PM   #372
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Going to fill up tomorrow for the weekend trip. Looks like Diesel is $4.10-$4.25 in Southern California. I think it was two or maybe three year ago, we were paying $5.25 in Southern California for diesel.
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I remember the folks that would drive down to FL from Canada complaining about the price of gas. Many of them would tell me that if gas hit $1 a gallon, they would have to stop driving down to FL... many of them predicted that most of the Canadians would stop coming to FL.

Can anyone tell me if the Canadians stopped traveling to FL in the winter?
Are there any American's in Florida during the Winter? I think only Canadians.
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I am reaching the retirement I have been looking forward to. I have to agree with most posts - I have planned on RVing when I retire and the cost of fuel might limit my travel but staying longer and going shorter distances will be my way of regulating cost.

I will tow a vehicle or my motorcycle to enjoy the countryside.
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Old 03-03-2011, 08:09 AM   #375
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My problem is not so much in being able to pay the $5 per gallon but in the remembering just a couple years ago when it was in the low $2 range. Even worse is remembering when gas was $.17 per gallon, but that's another story. For now, because I mind tells me I don't want to fall prey to whowever is making the outrageous profit off oil, we will not take our annual four month trip. Pity.
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HERE is an interesting read regarding rising fuel prices from Investor's Business Daily. Yes, it has political overtones, but it is directly relevant to the thread topic of fuel price increases and our government's view of same.

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If I were to stop using my RV then, not only would gas still be $5 a gallon but I'd be paying for an RV & not using it.

I have to look at it like this way. Expensive as it is, a tank of fuel in my 3500 would then cost an extra $30 or so. Thirty bucks is bucks, but I'm not going to let that keep me off the road. Who knows, maybe campgrounds will lower prices to keep people coming once the price of gas scares them away.

And, why IS diesel so expensive? Isn't it the "Malt Liquor" of combustible fuels?
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And, why IS diesel so expensive? Isn't it the "Malt Liquor" of combustible fuels?
As has been explained time and time again:

1. ULSD diesel (15 ppm maximum sulphur content) is significantly more expensive to produce than the 500 ppm diesel we used to run.

2. The world demand for diesel fuel is higher proportional to available supplies than the demand for gasoline. In Europe, the use of diesels is promoted because of their better fuel efficiency and lower greenhouse gas (CO2, specifically) emissions - you burn less carbon, you make less CO2. Therefore, diesel is taxed at a lower level than gasoline in Europe, and over 50% of the automotive sales in Europe are diesels. Due to this global demand, tankers were exporting diesel from U.S. refiners to Europe and bringing gasoline back to the U.S. from European refineries. In addition, the exploding economies of China and India are driving global diesel fuel demand to fuel their construction equipment and transportation.

3. In the U.S., Federal and most state fuel taxes are higher on diesel than they are on gasoline since, unlike Europe, our emissions regulations target smog precursors (such as NOx) and particulates where diesel engines are at a disadvantage. The higher diesel taxes are also based on the premise that large diesel-powered trucks do more damage to the roadways and thus should pay a proportionately greater share of the construction and maintenance cost, despite the fact that they would with an equal taxation structure due to their higher fuel consumption per mile.

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