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Old 03-12-2011, 06:03 AM   #463
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Diesel just busted $4.00/gal and heating oil we got yesterday was $3.65-did you know that the US IMPORTS coal ?

On the upside I haven't read any reports that the earthquake in Japan was caused by global warming or gas/oil fracting; yet-wait and see because-HE- is always right.
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Old 03-12-2011, 07:10 AM   #464
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just a thought mh is full of fuel.drive some were warm raise hell they ask u to leave no fuel.tow truck comes stay at repo yard till get kick out of there.tow truck tows ya some were else.by then getting cold get arrested go to jail 3 meals aday hot shower get medical & teeth fix.by spring get out start all over only if i can get dw to by in.
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Old 03-12-2011, 12:26 PM   #465
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Since China makes every thing and they make so many things affordable that otherwise would not be, they should start making gas too.
We have excess refining capacity at this time and there are permits ok'ed for some new ones. Making gas is not a problem. The problem is the ridiculous ban on drilling for our own crude.

We have a tremendous amount of crude deposits in our country. More than enough to supply us until researchers/developers can come up with some realistic alternative. Corn is not the answer. People and critters eat the stuff to make food for humans. To waste corn on fuel is not only stupid but it is criminal. BTW, corn derived ethanol is less efficient than gasoline and actually more expensive (energy wise) to make than good old 85 octane gasoline.

I would rather pay $100/bbl for our own crude than to pay $100 to the Saudis for more their crude.
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Old 03-12-2011, 12:27 PM   #466
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just a thought mh is full of fuel.drive some were warm raise hell they ask u to leave no fuel.tow truck comes stay at repo yard till get kick out of there.tow truck tows ya some were else.by then getting cold get arrested go to jail 3 meals aday hot shower get medical & teeth fix.by spring get out start all over only if i can get dw to by in.
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Old 03-12-2011, 01:22 PM   #467
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just a thought mh is full of fuel.drive some were warm raise hell they ask u to leave no fuel.tow truck comes stay at repo yard till get kick out of there.tow truck tows ya some were else.by then getting cold get arrested go to jail 3 meals aday hot shower get medical & teeth fix.by spring get out start all over only if i can get dw to by in.
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We have excess refining capacity at this time and there are permits ok'ed for some new ones. Making gas is not a problem. The problem is the ridiculous ban on drilling for our own crude.

We have a tremendous amount of crude deposits in our country. More than enough to supply us until researchers/developers can come up with some realistic alternative. Corn is not the answer. People and critters eat the stuff to make food for humans. To waste corn on fuel is not only stupid but it is criminal. BTW, corn derived ethanol is less efficient than gasoline and actually more expensive (energy wise) to make than good old 85 octane gasoline.

I would rather pay $100/bbl for our own crude than to pay $100 to the Saudis for more their crude.

Totally agree!! The environuts are killing this country!!
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We have excess refining capacity at this time and there are permits ok'ed for some new ones. Making gas is not a problem. The problem is the ridiculous ban on drilling for our own crude.

We have a tremendous amount of crude deposits in our country. More than enough to supply us until researchers/developers can come up with some realistic alternative. Corn is not the answer. People and critters eat the stuff to make food for humans. To waste corn on fuel is not only stupid but it is criminal. BTW, corn derived ethanol is less efficient than gasoline and actually more expensive (energy wise) to make than good old 85 octane gasoline.

I would rather pay $100/bbl for our own crude than to pay $100 to the Saudis for more their crude.
The fact remains that the US uses 25% of the world's oil, while it holds only 2% of existing oil supply. So how exactly are we going to drill our way out of this? Do the math.

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Totally agree!! The environuts are killing this country!!
Also totally agree!!!!!!
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Bear in mind that environmentalists WANT very high prices to discourage the consumption of carbon-based fuels and to provide a price umbrella under which to make America's conversion to "greener" energy marketable. Wonder how long it'll take me to get from Houston to Arizona with an EV truck stopping to recharge every 80 miles??

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Also totally agree!!!!!!
WE also totally agree, however, we can add a few other organizations to the 'environuts' that feel they should control America... "land of the free"
Where did it go ?
Not only is our fuel going up in price, but so is our food, and other necessities to live the life that we are used to living or for some, just to survive the system.
We just started the RV lifestyle, sure don't want to stop right now.. but we will hold in there to see if we are going to be able to continue.
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Totally agree!! The environuts are killing this country!!
If you think environmentalist's run the country, you are sorely mistaken.
Sure CA has been an environmental leader, but if they don't want oil rigs off their coast they will have to pay the price at the pump. Fracking is opening up many new oil fields near older fields that were pumped dry years ago. As far as I know the "environuts" are not able to stop the freak'in frack'in.
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-did you know that the US IMPORTS coal ?
The US exports more coal than it imports. Economics is pretty complicated.
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We have excess refining capacity at this time and there are permits ok'ed for some new ones. Making gas is not a problem. The problem is the ridiculous ban on drilling for our own crude.

We have a tremendous amount of crude deposits in our country. More than enough to supply us until researchers/developers can come up with some realistic alternative. Corn is not the answer. People and critters eat the stuff to make food for humans. To waste corn on fuel is not only stupid but it is criminal. BTW, corn derived ethanol is less efficient than gasoline and actually more expensive (energy wise) to make than good old 85 octane gasoline.

I would rather pay $100/bbl for our own crude than to pay $100 to the Saudis for more their crude.
Suggestion to the powers that be:

Issue permits to drill in all of our known or suspected locations. Then, on getting a gusher, cap the well until the oil is needed and I mean (small n) needed.

Simultaneously the support to transport, refine and make ready the oil in the ground would be built.

Then, tell the Saudis and all the other countries that hate us to "eat a rock"!!!
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A look at fuel costs,
This is an example only, from the SMART RVing magazine - http://www.smartrving.org/files/Mar-Apr_2011.pdf
It is not difficult to plug-in todays fuel prices and re-figure for your RV.http://www.roadtripamerica.com/fuel-cost-calculator.php
The bottom line is, the price of fuel should not keep an RV owner from using or enjoying it.
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