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Old 09-20-2016, 10:48 PM   #1
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Illinois non-CDL licenses? Class A? Im confused.

Hi All. I am hoping some may be able to shed some light on this. If I have posted this in the wrong forum perhaps the mods can re-direct?

I have a copy of the non-CDL guide and have read some threads online but can't quite figure this one out. My license is a D right now, up to 16,000lbs. I am looking at 5th wheels and would have to upgrade my license. I should have a higher class anyway, that way I am covered.

If I am reading the non-CDL guide correctly, and have interpreted what I have read on some other threads the classes are as follows:
Class C is 16,001 to 26,000, straight or tractor/trailer
Class B is 1 vehicle 26,001lbs or more, or 2 vehicles (tractor/trailer) where the tractor is 26,001lbs or more and the trailer is 10,000lbs or less
Class A is 2 vehicles (tractor trailer) where the combined weight is 26,001lbs or more and trailer is 10,001lbs or greater

3 questions, maybe more to come:
1. Where does one find the exact layout of the licensing structure, study materials, practice tests, etc? Neither the general site for common drivers licenses nor the CDL-specific site list anything regarding "non-CDL" classes that I found, outside of the standard D class.
2. How does one go about finding a DMV that knows anything about the non-CDL licenses so as to not jump through hoops, dance, and spin around on one's tippy-toes 4 times?
3. It appears you need to have a vehicle registered and equipped for the license you are testing for, and you have to have that vehicle driven to the test site by a licensed (IE - has the proper class) person. How does one do this with a 5th wheel RV that they are purchasing? Are there any other options besides hooking up your new RV? (IE - examiners taking you on wild goose chases down alleys and needing to back out - what if there is damage that arises from the requests of the instructor?)

If I am going to jump through some hoops I might as well get an A, though I'll likely be under 26k. Any reason not to?


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Old 09-21-2016, 04:14 AM   #2
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I had to upgrade my "D" to "C" Illinois license when we went from a TT to an 18,000lb MH. It is not that bad to do at least where I live in east central Illinois, Vermilion County. First go to the Driver License Facility and pick up the books that fit the license you will need. Take this home and study, especially weights, widths, heights and distances. Unless they have come out with a new book the one they give you is poorly written and can be confusing. After you figure out the book you can do things either of two ways. Take the written test and when you pass they will give you a learners permit. Then you can drive legally as long as you have a co-pilot with the appropriate license. If you want to take everything at the same time, have someone drive the appropriate rig to the facility and do it all. Take your proof of insurance in with you so they can fill out the paperwork and make sure all the lights work.
Here in Vermilion County the parking and backing up is done in their parking lot and the road course is a loop through Danville and back on the interstate. Nice easily doable course so no worries about that. Unless you plan to upgrade again later I would not go higher in license grade than what you need. The "B" and "A" tests are more involved and if you can find an "A" vehicle to test drive it will probably need an "air brake" endorsement also which is another test. Jim.

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Bumping the thread
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Old 09-23-2016, 09:12 PM   #4
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I got my Class B in Marion (Southern IL). Went to SOS facility and took the written. They issued me my temp learner permit and said come back when I wanted to do the driving portion. I asked how I was supposed to get the motorhome there, they said drive it. She said it was "don't ask, don't tell". I went home got the m/h and drove right back for the test. It was on the same route as a normal car test was given. Just driving around some streets. No air brake test needed. How much does your truck weigh, and how much does the trailer you are looking at weigh? (GVW)
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With a hitch ready to roll my current truck would be about 8800lbs. I am looking at a lot of trailers, some gross around 16,000 but others up to 24,000. I am looking around and researching. I have an idea I am looking to pursue but it is quite a puzzle - all the pieces have to go in the right place.
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In NC, you have to take the test in a vehicle that matches the class of license endorsement you are interested in.

There is a written (computer) test to get the permit. Permit allows you to drive the vehicle, as long as you have someone else in the vehicle that has the right class license. Then you go back and take the driving test. (Make sure the person who is licensed with correct endorsement, is with you when you go for the test when they ask how did you get it there).
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I have upgraded to a higher classificstion twice in Illinois and both times it was never asked. A standard answer would likely be "My brother/uncle/friend drove it here but had to leave for an appointment."
The test was taken on a computer.

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