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Indeterminate - rebuilt engine?
08-09-2011, 01:20 PM
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Purchased a new 2011 Thor motor home with 673 miles on the odometer. In July we took our first trip, after 100 miles the engine developed a problem with a rod. Towed motor home back to Camping World in Roanoke, Va. where we purchased it. Camping World recommended that we have a new engine; Ford indicated they would replace it with a rebuilt engine. We understand that this will cause a depreciation of about $30,000 dollars to the value of the motor home. We are at a stalemate with no real direction from either company.
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08-09-2011, 02:13 PM
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sounds like you need a lawyers advice.
pronto
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08-09-2011, 04:34 PM
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I think beverfever is giving you good advice.
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08-09-2011, 04:36 PM
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With only 673 miles they should be replacing with a new motor.
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08-09-2011, 05:17 PM
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Check the warranty, I believe they can install a factory rebuilt engine if they choose.
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08-09-2011, 06:07 PM
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The motorhome probably depreciated $30k just driving it off the lot. If the rebuilt engine warranty extends as long as the original one did, I wouldn't be concerned.
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08-09-2011, 06:54 PM
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There is a big difference between rebuilt and repaired, rebuilt should be as good as new or in your case better than new and still under warranty. If it is in your warranty book about replacing with rebuilt,give up and get them started you are still paying for your unit the longer it takes the more it cost you.
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08-09-2011, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tha_Rooster
There is a big difference between rebuilt and repaired, rebuilt should be as good as new or in your case better than new and still under warranty. If it is in your warranty book about replacing with rebuilt,give up and get them started you are still paying for your unit the longer it takes the more it cost you.
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Good advice!!
Get it done and be on your way. The rebuilt will be as good or better than any of the other engines.
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08-09-2011, 07:41 PM
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If they took your own engine out and fixed it, you would still end up with a rebuilt engine. I don't see where it makes any difference - they are putting in a rebuilt engine so that you don't have to wait around while your own engine gets rebuilt by a competent engine shop. Better for you and them too.
I don't see where installing another engine is going to cause any additional depreciation. As has already been said, you took the depreciation hit as soon as you took title to the rig.
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08-10-2011, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by macnkat
Check the warranty, I believe they can install a factory rebuilt engine if they choose.
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Just put a rebuilt/remanufactured in my MH has a 5 year 100,000 mile warranty from Ford.
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08-10-2011, 09:05 PM
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Brother in law had same sort of issue with his '06 Ford pickup - bad injector leaked fuel into cylinder, hydro-locked, bent rod. Ford stepped up with a new short block, all is well now. As to depreciation, how, other than maybe a Carfax check, would anyone but you down the line even know whether the engine was OEM or a manufacturer rebuilt?
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08-14-2011, 01:42 PM
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Technically, the serial number on the engine should match the number of the chassis. At least, that's the way it used to be.
However, the advantage to a Ford rebuilt engine (and you should ask for the source of the rebuild) is that someone has put eyes on every part of it; they have checked every clearance, every bearing, every ring, every valve, etc. That's not true of most new engines, where they depend on "averages" and "built-in clearances" to make sure the average engine (probably 99 out of 100) starts and runs on the first try.
I once had a friend who worked in the "lemon room" at the local (Arlington, TX) GM assembly plant. He said a certain percentage of the cars just would not run after being built, so they would make adjustments, check parts, and ultimately replace the engine, if necessary. If you bought one of those cars, you would never know it...unless you know the code to check for it. My guess is it has ever been thus; as a hotrodder, I know that "matching numbers" classic cars don't necessarily match, or may have a code on the engine indicating it wasn't the first engine installed in the car.
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