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Old 05-21-2015, 03:29 PM   #29
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69 Volkswagen K70 is water cooled.
I believe that was the point TQ60 was making.

Thanks to the folks on this great forum, with the past 2 RV's/tow vehicles/toads, I knew exactly what I wanted & went shopping with precise "must have/negotiable" lists & with prices I was willing to pay. Sure made dealing with the salespeople a lot simpler & kept them from wasting my time & theirs trying to sell me something I didn't want or for a price above what I was willing to pay. I plan to stick with this same plan with our next purchase.

The worst thing to do is to go in unprepared. They'll smell indecision a mile away & will steer you to what they want to sell vs what you may want.

Be an informed consumer & you'll make a deal you'll be happy with & the dealer will "mostly" be happy with.

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Several years ago when shopping for a fifth wheel the salesman at this not huge but decent size dealership told me that he had a small class C and a couple of other salesmen had TT's but that was it. He did let it slip that the sales manager for the dealership had never slept in an RV!
There are times when I wonder if the guys who design and manufacture them have ever used them as well.
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There are times when I wonder if the guys who design and manufacture them have ever used them as well.

I spoke with a field rep for Fleetwood/American Coach, and she mentioned it was company policy that leadership must spend x amount of days using them.
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Never heard of any water cooled vw of those years...

Common beetle, bus and squareback all air cooled.

We worked in a gas station across from another one and when they had a new guy we would call at night and watch them pull their hair out trying to figure out how to find it in the book...
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I spoke with a field rep for Fleetwood/American Coach, and she mentioned it was company policy that leadership must spend x amount of days using them.
That would make sense but looking at some of the designs I wonder why they did some of the things they did.

We really like the Providence but could not figure out why they have a terraced drawers in the bedroom. Top drawers are really small and you can't put anything on the counter top in front of the top drawers unless you are prepared to move the object every time you want to open a drawer. Why not build it straight up?

We looked at a Thor and they had the same design feature so it must be popular??
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But they look so nice...who cares if they work...they look nice...
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That would make sense but looking at some of the designs I wonder why they did some of the things they did.

We really like the Providence but could not figure out why they have a terraced drawers in the bedroom. Top drawers are really small and you can't put anything on the counter top in front of the top drawers unless you are prepared to move the object every time you want to open a drawer. Why not build it straight up?

We looked at a Thor and they had the same design feature so it must be popular??

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Have to be careful of how I word this so I don't violate the forum rules. We sell most of the high end manufacturer coaches with the most expensive coach being about 800K.

Me and my wife are going to be upgrading to a tag axle so I take my lunch break sometimes and walk around the different coaches. I have yet to walk in one without thinking why did they do that. We just got a very popular DP in the other day that goes for about 500K and I couldn't belive how they placed certain items, fabric colors, interior colors, fit/finish, etc. I was thinking it would be on the lot a long time. Of course it sold in 2 days.

To tie back in to the OP, I think most of our salesman like it when a person has done there research and knows what they want. It keeps them from walking around with a person for hours only to never hear back from the customer again. My owner told me something I found interesting the other day. Used MH's values are going up, not down as I would have guessed. Said not much was built during the great recession, reducing used inventory. Put that together with a big interest in used units, and there you go. I know we are doing great business on new and used.

Great topic, but headed to Europe in about an hour for our twentieth anniversary. Try not to beat up on the dealers to much, ha ha.
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I have no issues with the dealers per se. They are much like men's or ladies wear stores. They can only sell what the manufacturers produce. I have encountered some really good salespersons and some not so good. Que sera.

It is obvious that the RV manufacturers just like clothing manufacturers have to keep changing in order to keep selling. Some of the changes are simply for changes sake.

I have often considered designing and building my own coach. But I am sure I would soon go broke.
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Dealt with Camping World Valencia, no high pressure, no problems...on third trip, met same saleman and wrote the 80K check...
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Dealt with Camping World Valencia, no high pressure, no problems...on third trip, met same saleman and wrote the 80K check...
Where's the first trip going to be?
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