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Old 04-01-2016, 08:54 PM   #1
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Is expensive tire sealant really worth it?/

My RV dealer wants $288 per 22.5" tire to install sealant (Products | Superior Tire Sealants), which includes a 5 year replacement guarantee. Do you think that is worth it?
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I think your dealer has been in the kool aid or he thinks you might be. No way would I put that stuff in my tires
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:04 PM   #3
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Usually once that stuff is put in there is no way to use a normal patch on the tire. No way would I have it done.
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Is expensive tire sealant really worth it?/

No way!

Wow, I marvel at stuff like this that dealers try to pull. Obviously it works and even if only a few go for it they make a huge profit on it.

When a car, RV, or other dealer first ask any this kind of stuff I toss it right back to them, hopefully to stop them from continuing with such BS.

Oh, and you don't want this stuff in your tires even if at a reasonable instead of outrageous price.
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I try to give the benefit of the doubt but in this case there is no doubt in my mind this dealer has lost all chances at credibility.
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I try to give the benefit of the doubt but in this case there is no doubt in my mind this dealer has lost all chances at credibility.

Agree. Any dealings I had with such a dealer would be suspect. And I would succinctly tell them so. And when/if they try to justify it, then tell what little credibility they had left just went to zero. They need to hear it.
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Snake oil.

Did he want to charge extra to put nitrogen in them too?
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Here is a quote from an article I found:

https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=15004

"There's no other leak-stop product on the market that mixes with fluid in a tire. It will instantly seal a hole up to 1/2-in. dia. with the heavy-duty version of the product," says Russell, noting that the liquid has tiny fibers that work like a tire plug to seal a hole. The tiny fiber was developed by NASA scientists for space suits. The plug is stronger than the tire itself.
"The fibers are so light and fluid that they go instantly to the hole, plugging it almost instantaneously," notes Russell.
Multi-Seal has been used by the military for years û a special formula will plug holes up to 1 1/4-in. dia. and has recently caught on rapidly with rental equipment companies. One national firm recently put Multi-Seal in 180,000 pieces of equipment that it rents nationwide."

And it goes on...

"The average cost of putting Multi-Seal into a 16-in. truck tire is $6 (takes about 18 oz. at 34 cents an ounce)."

According to the dosage chart on the company's site a 22.5 inch tire takes 48 ounces.
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Actually the tire can be repaired with traditional methods. Its water soluble and can literally be washed out with a garden hose. I have no connection with the company but after doing a little research on it, I could see using it and possibly preventing a catastrophic steer tire failure and preventing a serious accident. Sure would be better to have it seal a tire and make it to a safe place rather than waiting on the side of the road with traffic streaming by at 70mph while waiting for one of the oh so reliable coach services to show up. Check out the link and watch some of the videos, it might not be everybody's cup of tea but I certainly wouldnt bash a dealer for selling it. Everybody wants to treat the dealer like they are a bunch of crooks. Farm and fleet sells tire sealant, must be a bunch of thieving lying crooks and I'm not shopping there any more because they sell something I dont need. Its a choice, and before you comment with no knowledge you might want to research it a little and then make a decision.
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Also, the cost is not just for the sealant but also for the extended warranty they give you on the tires. I would also bet the price is negotiable like everything else.
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My RV dealer wants $288 per 22.5" tire
My questioning of the dealer is about the cost per tire. $1728.00 for a six wheel vehicle. Playing on a persons fears is not equal to providing great customer service.
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Again, includes tire warranty. While that is a bit pricey even with warranty, Im sure its negotiable. Then I thought what does coach net cost for five years or better yet, how much is a tow? I've heard of tows on big class A's where the tow company wouldnt breath on it for less than 500.00 not to mention the possible damage to the coach, inconvenience and safety issues while being stranded. Whats it worth not to be stranded on the side of the highway for 5 hours? How about the cost when a flat takes out the bodywork on a coach or sends you into the ditch? Lots to be considered here and it sure seems like a better product than others that have been on the market.
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Here is a quote from an article I found:

https://www.farmshow.com/a_article.php?aid=15004

"There's no other leak-stop product on the market that mixes with fluid in a tire. It will instantly seal a hole up to 1/2-in. dia. with the heavy-duty version of the product," says Russell, noting that the liquid has tiny fibers that work like a tire plug to seal a hole. The tiny fiber was developed by NASA scientists for space suits. The plug is stronger than the tire itself.
"The fibers are so light and fluid that they go instantly to the hole, plugging it almost instantaneously," notes Russell.
Multi-Seal has been used by the military for years û a special formula will plug holes up to 1 1/4-in. dia. and has recently caught on rapidly with rental equipment companies. One national firm recently put Multi-Seal in 180,000 pieces of equipment that it rents nationwide."

And it goes on...

"The average cost of putting Multi-Seal into a 16-in. truck tire is $6 (takes about 18 oz. at 34 cents an ounce)."

According to the dosage chart on the company's site a 22.5 inch tire takes 48 ounces.
That article is a bit old. The current price looks like $60 per gallon. Pricing/Order Form Multi Seal - Sierra Equipment Supply
So less than $30 per tire, if you did it yourself.
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Pricing/Order Form Multi Seal - Sierra Equipment Supply

10 46oz bags or a 5 gal pail for $328, $28.00 for installation pump will keep you from sitting on the side of the highway as well, they also have a disclaimer that it's not 100% effective, and how/where is the warranty honored?

Now that said I am not and did not question or offer an opinion of the product only the cost offered for it. They want 90 some oz per 22.5 wheel so your two packs short, spring for the 5 gallon pail, pump and labor at your local tire shop to pump it in if you can't do it yourself instead of having the tire/wheel taken off and the bead broken to insert bags.

I might have even talked myself into looking into it at those costs versus benefits. Just think Michelin sidewall cracks

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I seemed to have picked a different product/price than the last post but the thought process is the same.
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