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Old 06-09-2009, 06:02 AM   #43
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Did you ever think that the no it alls, realy do know it all; for instant; I've been RVing 3 to 4 months a year for over 25 years; owned both trailers and motorhomes; (lots of them) I've had just about every problem you can think of, been to every state in the united states more than once, most of the state and national parks; etc. I don't know it all, but I know a lot.
No, the no it alls do not really do know it all.
As an example, a while back I had posted to a thread. I received a private message from a well known member of this forum. His message had nothing to do with what I had posted. He had just noted my signature on the post. He told me I needed to change my signature. He told me that when he looked on the Freightliner internet site that all M2 Freightliners were MDTs and that my signature was wrong. Nothing I said would change his mind. After overwhelming proof he continued to argue. As I said, its not worth the aggravation.
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Old 06-09-2009, 07:08 AM   #44
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No, the no it alls do not really do know it all.
As an example, a while back I had posted to a thread. I received a private message from a well known member of this forum. His message had nothing to do with what I had posted. He had just noted my signature on the post. He told me I needed to change my signature. He told me that when he looked on the Freightliner internet site that all M2 Freightliners were MDTs and that my signature was wrong. Nothing I said would change his mind. After overwhelming proof he continued to argue. As I said, its not worth the aggravation.
Chees; when someone has nothing better to do than critize someones signature they need to find another hobby.
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Anytime you hang out on the INTERNET forums, you need to get a hide that is a bit thicker than normal. Here on iRV2 we go to great lengths to keep the comments down to a minimum, but we do ruffle some feathers.

If you have been flamed or feel treated bad in a post, simply use the report post feature to alert the moderators and administrators.
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Well being new here, if this site has "gone downhill" I can't imagne what it could have been like before. But my suspicion is that it hasn't "gone downhill" at all, but rather someone had what they consider a bad experience or two, and vented a bit.

I've been in IT since IT wasn't cool. The internet is a wealth of information, but you do need to have a bit of a thick skin sometime, and be willing to overlook some things that may go on from time to time. It's a trade-off that we deal with in a free society.

I must say when we wer stranded by an ignition switch problem last summer far from home after just purchasing our coach, I wish I would have known about this forum. It can be a lonely feeling out there, and just having "someone to talk to" would have helped, but I suspect I would have actually gotten more than that from an emergency post to this forum.

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The internet is better than sliced bread; a wealth of information at the click of a mouse; there is always someone there to give you a hand no matter what.
For those that may be offended once in a while; ---remember the old saying---sticks and stones will break my bones, but names will never hurt me; was true when we were kids, and is still true today.
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Perhaps, it is not the knowledge, but how is it presented. A very distinct aspect of internet forums is the lack of face-to-face and voice-to-voice contact. Much of communication is conveyed through facial expression and tonal and inflection qualities of voice. You can make sarcasm in a live setting. Written it almost always comes across differently and usually not positively.
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The site has changed. A part of it anyway. And it has changed a lot.

The friendly info that you can get here from friendly faces though, is still strong. And that is the backbone of this site anyway.
So if the site has gone 'downhill' then it is something more then just good info that someone is looking for I suspect. Different perspectives.
That 'friendly info' part of this site is important to me, but i can certainly also include myself in those who are at least nostalgic for the old.
What oldies aint nostalgic now and then for what was different?
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No, the no it alls do not really do know it all. . .. . Nothing I said would change his mind. After overwhelming proof he continued to argue. As I said, its not worth the aggravation.
My initial knee-jerk gut reaction is to say, "Then why continue coming back to be aggravated, and aggravate the rest of us?" But enough of that kind of talk. It is obviously not the message or kind of dialogue we really want to convey on this site.

I am sorry, however, to see that you had a bad experience, but I really don't want to see you leave this very informative and fun site as the result. The fact that you're here in the first place tells me that, because of your interest in the RV life style, you undoubtedly have some information, experiences and/or questions that would undoubtedly benefit many of the rest of us.

Don't let one negative (or me, for that matter) ruin all the positives for you. Hang around, you'll have a good time along with the rest of us. I promise.
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I had been a long time active user, but when the SW was upgraded, my ID no longer worked and no one was able to get it operational. After awhile, I set up a new ID , but don't use it nearly as often as before
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PanJH, glad to see you back. If you are having trouble getting on, all you have to do is send a message to Contact Us and one of the Administrators will get back to you. Be sure and include a current email and you screen name or ID. Most of the problems re registering came from the systems having an out of date email address. You have to have a valid email for the system to respond, otherwise the reply goes to Cyber Never-Never Land.

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If there has been any identifiable backsliding, it certainly has been due to the software change. Changing software is a hassle no matter when, why, or how (that's why so few change operating system brands when buying a new computer).
What is great about the internet is great about iRV2- the power of people with a connection to gather & help inform each other. This has changed, and will continue to change the way businesses (and maybe some day even government?) provide services & products.
e.g. without iRV2, Alpine Coach steering gear brackets (which are now known to be disturbingly bendy) would have gone unnoticed by 99.9% of Alpine owners. The matter is now, as a result of mutual informationalizing (sorry I needed a word there), under study by NHTSA. That would never have happened except for this site, and the benefit is substantially greater for owners of rigs w/defunct manufacturers. Although it can also be a great place to persuade an in-business mfgr that a customer issue is important also.

At first I thought the new software was a dud. But w/the full-court-press method of change-over, it came up to speed fast & is now, IMO, better than before by a wide margin. The "Recent Threads" bar makes it easy to scan what's new & hot on forums I don't usually check, and has informed me on some really interesting stuff.
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Have things changed? Yes! It seems we have a group here now that can answer about any question, and , at times get deeper than I care to know about.
When I first found this forum there was just a small group and we all "knew' each other. Now the membership has grown and we lost the personal feeling, not saying that's bad, but we counted on each other and trusted their answers. I'm getting in trouble here, it's like your sister married someone you didn't know and he was coming into the family.
Another item, there are quite a few members like me, we don't post often but are almost always in the background and come out at times to say all is well, or stick our 2 cents in a forum.
I can't say a bad word about the original owners, they were great. But- this present group is more active and will respond to a problem ASAP.
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I did actually read all of this...

I'm a newby to 2 rv forums, as well as a newbie to RVing, as in the past month.

I'm not at all a newbie to forums tho. I join forums on subjects thast interest me, and do so both as a learning tool and as a social tool. On my "home forum" camaros.net, I'm a mod with over 20,000 posts, and am thought of as one of those "know it alls" that have been spoken of.

I can't wait till I've been here enough to identify a few more of those fellows, tho I've identified a few all ready. Thank you for being here. It's you guys, who not only know the answers, but are willing to spend so much of your time sharing that knowledge, who make these forums work and keep people coming back.

As for the social aspect, I met my best friends in the whole world on an internet forum. I've travelled throusands of miles to see them the past 3 summers, and I bought my RV to drive to Seatle and spend 2 weeks running the west coast with them. We leave on the 21st, and I can't wait.

I'd hope iRV2.com is not in decline.
Ya see, I just got here. I'm only 51. I'm gonna be needing this place for a long long time, and I hope to make a LOT of good lifetime friends here.

So no more talk about decline, OK?
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