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Old 03-20-2008, 04:49 AM   #15
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I think the 4 wheelers who are commuting to work and filling there cars up weekly could have an impact by not filling up and instead putting in a half tank or quarter tank at a time.

This forces the oil companies to store the fuel rather then the cars. You still use the same amount over all but the oil companies have to store it for us. Also this allows us to watch the gas prices and take advantage if they drop.


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Old 03-20-2008, 05:16 AM   #16
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Not buying fuel for one day would have about the same impact as a one-day hunger strike!

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Old 03-20-2008, 05:36 AM   #17
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In my opinion the best thing we can do is encourage our congress people to allow development of our own oil resources in ANWR and offshore and stop listening to radical environmentalists. Had we developed our own resources years ago we would not be paying what we are today for gasoline and diesell.
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Old 03-20-2008, 06:32 AM   #18
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mjstef, read everyones comments. It would not even make a change for anyone but the fuel station owners. And I guess if you have it out for the owners than I can understand your feelings.
I can think of a lot of ways to do a far better job, more car pooling for one. Less use of our cars. For example how many of you drive to the corner store for something when you could have walked. Sadly far too many people because we have become lazy. Reduce taxes or take fuel tax off the meters most are 75% of the gas cost per gal. Taxes kill us on these fuel prices.
I have been living in a small town for years and the post office is the only way to get mail. Its less than a mile from the farthest point of the town to the post office. But you dont see anyone walking to the post office. Everyone drives. If all 900 residents walked that alone would put a daily dent in fuel usage. Now multiply that nationwide. Good gosh, there were be one heck of an excess.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> I think the 4 wheelers who are commuting to work and filling there cars up weekly could have an impact by not filling up and instead putting in a half tank or quarter tank at a time.

This forces the oil companies to store the fuel rather then the cars. You still use the same amount over all but the oil companies have to store it for us. Also this allows us to watch the gas prices and take advantage if they dro </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I have to agree with this statement.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MtManLee:
I can think of a lot of ways to do a far better job, more car pooling for one. Less use of our cars. For example how many of you drive to the corner store for something when you could have walked. Sadly far too many people because we have become lazy. Reduce taxes or take fuel tax off the meters most are 75% of the gas cost per gal. Taxes kill us on these fuel prices.
I have been living in a small town for years and the post office is the only way to get mail. Its less than a mile from the farthest point of the town to the post office. But you dont see anyone walking to the post office. Everyone drives. If all 900 residents walked that alone would put a daily dent in fuel usage. Now multiply that nationwide. Good gosh, there were be one heck of an excess. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Carpooling works you have a fair number of people at your job that work the same shift, for those of us in retail its very rare that 2 shift start and end at the same time. Public transit is okay, if you don't mind not being able to work past 9pm (Salem, OR) and have no issues with needing to leave almost a full hour earlier than you otherwise would.

I used to use public transit, alot. I was very glad to get away from it, as walking 10 miles home if I missed the bus really wasn't pleasant.

On the subject of corner grocers, I wish we had them, but that's something that you see very little of in anything outside small farm towns anymore. On average the nearest grocer is 2-5 miles from your average residence.

Frankly, I do believe some EPA regulations need to be put on Moratorium for around 10-15 years until enough refinery equipment is built to bring fuel prices back down to around a $1 a gallon.
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Old 03-20-2008, 05:35 PM   #21
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This proposed one day strike must be unknown. I've never heard any chatter on CB ch 19 yet.

Speaking of moratoriums, a couple decades ago CA invoked one on replacing out-dated, worn-out refineries. I wonder why CA now has the highest fuel prices in the US?

There is a great information post on fuel cost, at escapees dot com.
Fuel prices must not be outragous yet- drivers are still speeding along every highway we've traveled this year. Today, I drove from Canton,TX to Hot Springs, AR. As I drove I30 at 65mph, I was the slowest vehicle on the road I guess, because I never did pass another.
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The truck strike is happening to draw attention to many things in the trucking industry, not just fuel prices. Read a little here if you would like to understand more.......


http://www.thetruckersreport.com/tru...wner-operator/
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Old 03-21-2008, 06:05 AM   #23
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I feel for all the O/O out there. Yes they do get told how fast they have to get the load from one place to another. They know it's not safe sometimes to have to speed down the road, but that is the only way they can pay the bills.
Now we as RVers can do a lot to save on fuel cost, as I have said many times here on IRV2 is to SLOW DOWN. As I go down the road I know the truckers have to get from point A to point B in a hurry, But do we.
How many times have I had a MH, 5th wheel, and or a Trailer go past us doing 70 or 75mph an sometimes faster, This is just a big waste of fuel. So you got to the campgrounds 20 or 30 minutes before me, but how much more fuel did you use, did you see the bear,deer or the elk on the side of the road, how about the beautiful wild flowers, Blue Bonnets are starting to pop out in Texas and they are so small all you see at 30mph is just a color or the house that was on top of that hill over there, you get the picture, that is what RVing is all about seeing this beautiful country of ours and at the same time you can save some money on fuel cost. I drive my MH between 57- 62mph on most Interstates and guess what, the only vehicles we past is every now and than a RV that is going slower than us.
Now if we slow down to the speed limit with our RVs and personal cars, trucks and motorcyles everything else slows down. When the truckers as a group take longer to get from point A to point B the dispatchers will have to give them more time. If everyone slows down we as a nation do not use as much fuel.
Oh by the way, I am guilty, I was also at one time one of the RVers who just had to get to the next stop as fast as I could. It was my wife who would say did you see that, my anwser was no I have to watch out for that other driver who is going too slow, her anwser was, "they're only doing the speed limit."
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Old 03-21-2008, 10:49 AM   #24
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WHERE TO BUY YOUR USA-GAS

WHERE TO BUY YOUR USA-GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON--
Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it.
It might even be good for us!

The Saudis are boycotting American goods.

We should return the favor.

An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS.
Every time you fill up the car, you can avo id putting more money into
the coffers of Saudi Arabia Just buy from gas companies that don't
import their oil from the Saudis.


Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up
the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my
family, and my friends.

I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies
are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle
Eastern oil.

These companies import Middle Eastern oil :

Shell.......................... 205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco......... 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco...........................62,231,000 barrels

Citgo.....................from Venezuela , from a Dictator who hates
Americans, nationalized (stole) the US companies that discovered,
drilled for, extracted and refined the oil &lt; BR&gt;If you do the math at $30/ barrel, these imports amount to over $18
BILLION! (oil is now $90-$95 a barrel)

Here are some large companies that
DO NOT import Middle Eastern oil! Do THIS, instead:

Sunoco...................0 barrels
Conoco..................0 barrels
Sinclair...............0 barrels
BP/Phillips............0 barrels
Hess.......................0 barrels
ARC0....................0 barrels

All of this information is available from the Department of Energy;
each company is required to state where they get their oil and how much
they are importing.

But to have an impact, we need to reach literally millions of gas
consumers. It's really simple to do.

Here's how to reach millions of people:

I'm sending this note to about thirty people .

If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and

those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) .. an d

so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of
forwarding,

we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers !!!!!!!

If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten
friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!

If it goes one level further, you guessed it .... THREE HUNDRED MILLION
PEOPLE!!!

Again, all you have to do is send this to 10 people. How long would
that take?

If each of us sends this e-mail out to ten more people within one day,
all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next
day.
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Old 03-21-2008, 06:00 PM   #25
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Interesting news report tonight here in Utah. The small gas stations are closing because they cannot afford to buy the gas to sell. Sad but it may happen all over the US.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by MtManLee:
Interesting news report tonight here in Utah. The small gas stations are closing because they cannot afford to buy the gas to sell. Sad but it may happen all over the US. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Most small stations cannot buy from the wholesaler as cheap as the Wal-Marts, Flying J's etc. can sell it.

Sad but true big business will be the downfall of this country and when big business is all that is left we will TRULY pay the price........................
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I'm so sick of these fuel prices. It is really cause by our gov. policies, no new refineries, no drilling in Ak, what about the gas in N.D., wells in the south that are capped, it goes on and on. We pay and they make profits that are beyond comprehention. You are going to pay and that is that. Don't like it, park, but you aren't going to change it unless the truckers unite and do it and then we can join in with them. Years back, Pres. Nixon told the Sudds. to charge more for the oil so they could buy more arms and now they have us by the XXXX. Yes, it goes back that far. Nixon told them we would pay, and we do, are, and will continue to do so. So get over it. You have had it and will contue to get it.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by HobbyJack:
WHERE TO BUY YOUR USA-GAS </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Another urban legend. Read what Snopes.com has to say about this.
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