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Old 01-22-2019, 12:44 PM   #1
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Junky "Leather" Furniture

One of the main contributing factors as to why purchased our 2015 Avenger was the furniiture. It came with a love seat and two recliners. All three pieces appeared to be a rich, dark brown leather. After owning the camper for about a year our "leather" started to crack and peal! After the camper would set for a while the furniture got worse. Using the camper, thus sitting on the furniture made it even worse.

We contacted General RV where the original owner purchased the camper and since we purchased it used, they would not do anything. We contacted the provided of the furniture and was offered one couch cushion for the cost of $360.00 dollars! It soon became obvious neither the manufacturer nor the dealer really cared enough to do anything. We are considering replacing this furniture with regular furniture, which means getting the junky stuff out through the narrow door. We were wondering if anyone else had ever experienced this and what they did about it. Thanks - kip
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My RV came with a rather useless recliner that went out the door on day 1. I have been eyeballing the couch thinking about replacing it with a couple movie seats.
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Old 01-22-2019, 01:13 PM   #3
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They call it "ultra-leather" which is IMO a fancy name for improved plastic/vinyl.
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It's also known as "pleather"
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They call it "ultra-leather" which is IMO a fancy name for improved plastic/vinyl.
No. The OP's did not get the trademarked Ultraleather. It's not leather, but a bonded fabric with a leather-like finish. We've got it & it looks as good now as when we got our coach new in 2006. The real Ultraleather holds up very well to regular use.

What the OP got was the cheap knock-off of Ultraleather that many mfr's started using in 2011 & continued to do so into the mid-teens. It lasts a year or 2, usually long enough for the mfr warranty to run out. Some mfr's will help, but since they are the 2nd owner, more than likely they are out of luck. From what I understand the options are:
  • Contact the mfr to get replacement covers & recover the furniture themselves
  • Take the furniture out to be reupholstered by a professional
  • Chuck the furniture & buy something else

It's a common problem in posts on iRV2. A quick search will return dozens of threads about it.

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Most of it is junk. Had 3 rvs. Factory ordered first one without furniture and put in lazyboy leather....looked great when we sold the rv after 4 yrs. In second rv we got the factory supplied furniture but yanked it out after a few months buying fake leather stuff from furniture row. That lasted about 3 years til we had to replace it. Now have 3rd rv which came with flex steel fake leather. After a year we replaced all the foam but kept the fake leather covering. Its now 2 years old and I expect it to last another year. Rv and furniture manufacturers were no help in repair or replacement of any of the furniture.
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Manufacturers doing anything is a crap shoot and why would you want to use use the same material again knowing it sucks.

It costs as much to get it reupholstered as it does to buy new and you still have to take it out.

I'm taking door number three on my furniture that has the same issue.
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Most couches and chairs are made in pieces. You can take them apart to get them through the door. 30 years ago you could go to a store and buy furniture that would last 20 years. Now you are lucky to get 5 out of it. I will buy only Lazy-boy now. Its not perfect but I know what I am getting. And they stand by their warranty.
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They stand behind their warranty. Waaaaaaaaaaaaay behind it. (Not referring to Lazy Boy)
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Most of it is junk. Had 3 rvs. Factory ordered first one without furniture and put in lazyboy leather....looked great when we sold the rv after 4 yrs. In second rv we got the factory supplied furniture but yanked it out after a few months buying fake leather stuff from furniture row. That lasted about 3 years til we had to replace it. Now have 3rd rv which came with flex steel fake leather. After a year we replaced all the foam but kept the fake leather covering. Its now 2 years old and I expect it to last another year. Rv and furniture manufacturers were no help in repair or replacement of any of the furniture.
We have flex steel furniture including front seats covered in fabric. Newmar Dutchstar still looks new from 1999 and 73,000
Miles. Foam in furniture still firm no wear visible. Thats with 3 dogs also.
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We have replaced MH & boat furniture with these recliners and had great luck - comfortable - good looks and durable
See the Furniture Upgrade Link for details
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The quality of furniture used varies from manufacturer and I've found it fairly easy to spot when looking at different motorhomes and trailers. Typically, with lower priced stuff, one area where the manufacturers save bucks is the furniture. One can speculate that they know that mose purchasers won't use the RV enough during the warranty period to have a problem, and once the warranty has expired, they're not going do do anything about a furniture problem. It's really buyer beware.....and find out the quality grade of the furniture in a unit you are interested in purchasing. And, if it's cheap.....plan to replace it.
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They call it "ultra-leather" which is IMO a fancy name for improved plastic/vinyl.

Real "Ultra Leather" is actually more expensive per yard that "real" leather and stands up much better. Our real Ultra Leather seats held up without any rips, tears, gouges, cuts, etc for 16 years before we decided to change colors.


Look for any furniture built with Ultra Leather (trade mark) instead of the pleather junk
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The only way you will know if the furniture is made with real Ultraleather is to look for the spec sheet, pasted somewhere inside the RV. If you don't see that trade name on the spec sheet, you got something else.

I'm looking for a newer/used diesel. First thing I look for is that sheet & if I don't see Ultraleather on it, I walk out of the RV.

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