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Old 05-19-2018, 05:05 PM   #1
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Just the Bear Facts, Ma’am!

We’re reserved at so many Canadian and US National Parks that have bear warnings and food lockers this season, that we want to be safe.

My sole experience was at Yellowstone some 49 years ago. My grandfather had tied our food up in a tree. The neighboring tent sites hadn’t and had a visitor a brown bear. I remember the coolers being thrashed about before we were directed to retreat to the car by the adults.


I will now return with a camping trailer with a refrigerator and plenty of dry food storage. I’m confused by the multiple sources of videos that seem to be in conflict with each other.

Are there really any hard and fast rules? One video says all food, coolers, dog food and dishes, cosmetics etc must be placed in the food lockers. “If they’re full, since you have to share them, you may have to place these in your car and cover them. the video I watched before this showed the bear ripping the door frames and climbing into the cars.

Facts and real life experiences would be helpful.
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Old 05-19-2018, 05:19 PM   #2
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The general rule that covers food storage in National Parks is contained in:

36 CFR 2.10 - Camping and food storage.

(d)Food storage. The superintendent may designate all or a portion of a park area where food, lawfully taken fish or wildlife, garbage, and equipment used to cook or store food must be kept sealed in a vehicle, or in a camping unit that is constructed of solid, non-pliable material, or suspended at least 10 feet above the ground and 4 feet horizontally from a post, tree trunk, or other object, or shall be stored as otherwise designated. Violation of this restriction is prohibited. This restriction does not apply to food that is being transported, consumed, or prepared for consumption.

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In my younger days DW and I and the family did some extended camping in the Boundary Waters Canoe Area (1,000,000+ acres) in northern Minnesota. LOTS of bears. We found throwing a rope over a limb to hoist the food out of Yogi's reach worked, but.... I guess the bears had been to school. They knew that if good smelling things were overhead, a tall reach up the nearest tree and a rake down with claws sometimes got you manna from heaven. TIE THE ROPE TO A DIFFERENT TREE. Also, we watched a momma bear send two cubs up a tree to knock the goodies down. HANG THE FOOD BETWEEN TREES ON TWO ROPES AND TIE THEM TO DIFFERENT TREES. Seriously, these bears are all well schooled in relieving people of munchies. Listen closely to what you're told unless you have a grocery store or restaurant down the block. It took us 3 days to get out of the Boundary Waters when a bear got one of our food packs. Hungry at the end but a lot smarter.
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We traveled to Alaska and back last summer with our travel trailer and camped in some remote campgrounds, provincial parks and state parks and never had any problems. We’ve also camped at Grand Teton and Yellowstone with no bear problems. Keep a clean camp. Don’t leave any food items, scraps, pet food, etc., outside that might attract bears and other critters. When we used our portable grill, as soon as it cooled after burning it off, it was placed in its cover and then inside a contractor strength trash bag, then locked in our trailer’s storage. Keep things clean and you might want to keep a can of good bear spray handy, just in case. We did. I would not get overly worried about it, but use caution.
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We traveled to Alaska and back last summer with our travel trailer and camped in some remote campgrounds, provincial parks and state parks and never had any problems. We’ve also camped at Grand Teton and Yellowstone with no bear problems. Keep a clean camp. Don’t leave any food items, scraps, pet food, etc., outside that might attract bears and other critters. When we used our portable grill, as soon as it cooled after burning it off, it was placed in its cover and then inside a contractor strength trash bag, then locked in our trailer’s storage. Keep things clean and you might want to keep a can of good bear spray handy, just in case. We did. I would not get overly worried about it, but use caution.
This is the information you want. If you have a hard-sided RV there's no need to use a bear box. Those are meant for tenters. If putting a cooler in the car do so in the trunk or at least cover it. Camp bears know what a cooler looks like. Just keep your site clean and never leave anything related to food, outside... especially a cooler. Inside keep food well sealed and put away. Don't leave dirty dishes and dispose of trash. Above all... don't cook bacon!!
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We camp a fair bit in the Rocky Mountains (bear country), most of it boondocking but campgrounds occasionally as well like this weekend. We have a motorhome but common sense still applies like mentioned above, don't leave inviting things around to draw them in. I have noticed posters and talk on the radio about it more this year then previous years but haven't heard of any attacks or close calls around this area.
I do know they are around though, we saw mother grizzly and her two cubs yesterday while we were in the back country.
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Many years ago we were in Glacier. We were advised by the park rangers that we were ok in our hard sided truck camper but if you were tent camping or had a soft sided camper, you had to leave the park. Several years ago, we were tent camping in Yellowstone. We had a box trailer and put all our food, stoves, etc. in the trailer. Middle of the night, a ranger woke us up and said we had stuff out which needed to be secured. He left but said he would be back. I got up and spent about 30 minutes searching both sites looking for what he found. Finally found a water bottle that my granddaughter left on the tongue of the trailer. Thought that was a little extreme.
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THey never complained about food stored inside my RV. but as the above post said....or in a camping unit that is constructed of solid, non-pliable material... Which more or less describes a Class A. But not a Tent or a PUP
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