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Old 06-09-2012, 09:10 PM   #99
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Wait, does that mean that dad has to sleep in the toad(doghouse)?
Some times it is the best place to be. Sometimes you want to just getaway. Most of the time I am under the awning snoring in my lounge chair. DW yels at me thinking I am waking the neighbors.

TV is for DW. As long as it is no raining I will be outside.
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Old 06-10-2012, 01:54 PM   #100
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Yup, gas prices have been drifting down since before Memorial Day. Today, according to Gas Buddy, prices vary from $3.49 to $3.57. Maybe by the 4th of July prices will be closer to $3.00 (not holding breath ).

Don't I wish! But at least it is in the 3's now. $3.99
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Old 06-10-2012, 02:05 PM   #102
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$3.50-60 range in Phx.
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Someone please explain to me why since mid-April prices in other cities like Little Rock, Pensacola, etc have dropped over 40 cents and Tucson is hovering around a 10-15 cent drop in the same time?? Tired of getting screwed over! I swear if they found a way to charge for the air we breath they will.
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Could be worse... betcha yours is still lower than mine.
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Could be worse... betcha yours is still lower than mine.
Yes it could always be worse but, I am sure though although Cali prices are crazy high they came down quicker then Tucsons.
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Fueled up on Bellemont Az and drove 20 miles to Williams Az. Bellemont was 3.53 , Williams 3.99 at some , others over 4.00
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Because they found out they can get away with it. It's the same way in Phx. Somebody has somebody else in their hip pocket.
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Because they found out they can get away with it. It's the same way in Phx. Somebody has somebody else in their hip pocket.
Agreed 100%.
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You guys should move out here where that never happens. Oh, and gas is more expensive... almost forgot that selling point.
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You guys should move out here where that never happens. Oh, and gas is more expensive... almost forgot that selling point.
Hey you have to pay for the beautiful beach they call the pacific coast. You could never pay me enough to live in California! The cost of living in unreal!
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You guys should move out here where that never happens. Oh, and gas is more expensive... almost forgot that selling point.
Or explain -- with several of the worlds largest refineries -- why our city has prices sometimes higher than cities without. Monopoly, politics, greed . . it's expensive wherever one goes (compared to 2002).

A 10% change in the price of fuel is par for the course. No matter the ostenible "reason". America hasn't been self-sufficient in fuel for nearly a half-century. So, a "recreation" born in the time prior to that is forever after more expensive.

If I had to worry over fuel price (I will at $6/gl) then RV'ng would be off the table altogether.

My take was to spec trailer and tow vehicle for highest fuel economy, right from the start. No compromises that way. I can run 63-mph, or lower it to 58-mph. Either way it is far higher than with a conventional TT and gas TV at 15 or 16-mpg respectively, pulling a 34'.

I plan vacations at a fuel cost of 25-cpm to make it easy. SmokeyWren recently covered nearly 4k miles at 37-cpm. Try it.

Vehicle spec and trip planning take the sting away from out-of-pocket expenses. Reduce the annual family use of vehicle fuel through the rest of the year (with no reduction in "quality" of service) and that can pay for some vacations by itself, no matter the RV rig.

A more realistic view is the amount of fuel consumed for a per-night basis and balanced off the total number of miles for the trip. I find that helps in what I plan . . and "the plan" takes the pain out of it.

I'll fuel where it best suits me (high volume, fresh fuel, access to road, near particular waypoint) and not worry over the rest of it. Chasing pennies while on the road rather defeats the purpose of "re-creation". Planning and different vehicle practice the rest of the year works well to understand the percentage of the fuel bill dedicated to vacation . . it needs to be central, IMO, not ancillary to fixed overhead fuel bills (which has tons of fat to trim).

Hope all of you enjoy your travels. Send pics. Some of us are stuck without travel for a while and enjoy your adventures as you choose to share them.

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Fuel prices plays a huge roll in how often & how far we travel. Hope that one day it won't but thats not likely.
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