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Old 05-08-2012, 04:26 PM   #15
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Hi newrvlady,

I think I remember you stating you are going to be camping without electrical hook ups, is this correct?

If so you will need to run the generator (hopefully you have one and it works) to keep the house batteries charged up. If you plug in an automotive type battery charger to a 120 volt outlet on the RV and run the generator it should charge up your chassis battery.

Oh, a genset is the gas powered generator on your MH.
It would also be extremely helpful if we knew the type of RV you have, i.e., Class A, Class C, make and model.

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It would also be extremely helpful if we knew the type of RV you have, i.e., Class A, Class C, make and model.

Thank you and best of luck
As you can tell I am knew and sort of blonde. It is a 1997 pace arrow 3600 class A. I have been corresponding with a knowledgable guy about solar panels and he wants to know what kind of charger I have Where in the world do I look for that. I don't think I have an inverter at least the guy I purchased it from said there was not one but I did not ask him about a charger. It hurts that I am so clueless. I am really hoping to not be soon.
Can anyone tell me where to look for the charger???
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I believe the inverter/charger is on the drivers side in the rear compartment with the generator.
There should be a model number on the front.
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As you can tell I am knew and sort of blonde. It is a 1997 pace arrow 3600 class A. I have been corresponding with a knowledgable guy about solar panels and he wants to know what kind of charger I have Where in the world do I look for that. I don't think I have an inverter at least the guy I purchased it from said there was not one but I did not ask him about a charger. It hurts that I am so clueless. I am really hoping to not be soon.
Can anyone tell me where to look for the charger???
I can't find anything for Pace Arrow under 3600?

According to Nada price guide the 36' model would be model #M35U on a Ford Chassis or the higher line Vision is model# M36B and could be Chevy or Ford chassis.

Anyway you probable do not have an inverter unless the previous owner installed one. The charger you have is called a converter/charger.

They are usually located near the circuit breaker panel or under the fridge from what I could find on the net.

You probably have an Inteli-Power 9100 series converter, but not sure until you find it and write down the model #.
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Is this the converter?

I looked all over my motorhome and read through the four binders of owners manuals and I found one manaul that sais " Banks powerpack syste ford 460 efi class a motorhomes non-catalytic converter"
I did notice by the engine it also said ford/oshkosh powerbanks. And it has a banks powerpack silver medal thingy attached to the outside of the motorhome. Is this the charger/converter? I don't see any system just that it says it places.
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O.k. after reading the manual on powerbanks I think that is just to do with the engine. So I really don't think I have a charger/converter. Strange. Here are some pics of the only things that I could find that looked like possibles but I really don't think so.Click image for larger version

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I know that little thing that sais 55 hours on it is not anything to do with a converter but I was wondering if that is how many hours my generator has on it. If so I am worried because this thing is 15 years old.
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O.k. after reading the manual on powerbanks I think that is just to do with the engine. So I really don't think I have a charger/converter. Strange. Here are some pics of the only things that I could find that looked like possibles but I really don't think so.

I know that little thing that sais 55 hours on it is not anything to do with a converter but I was wondering if that is how many hours my generator has on it. If so I am worried because this thing is 15 years old.
Your charger/converter will most likely be where you can't see it as well as the auto transfer switch(it hums when your plugged into shore/house power) my transfer switch was under the bottom drawer next to the sink. My converter/charger is under the fridge but is accessed by removing a grill at floor level next to the fridge. my MH is older but shouldn't be that much different. My converter/charger only charges the house batteries and the small solar panel on the roof A/C is supposed to trickle charge the engine battery- doesn't work well at all.

Take all the drawers out and look around with a flashlight and you should find yours.
First picture is breakers for the listed items all 110 volt
Second pic is climate control only
3rd pic is your gen start switch
Last pic is the hour meter for the gen set. Tells you how many hours your gen has run since the meter was installed. Not necessarily how many hours the gen has ran since it could have been installed by another owner and not factory. Your manual will tell you if it's factory installed.
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I looked all over my motorhome and read through the four binders of owners manuals and I found one manaul that sais " Banks powerpack syste ford 460 efi class a motorhomes non-catalytic converter"
I did notice by the engine it also said ford/oshkosh powerbanks. And it has a banks powerpack silver medal thingy attached to the outside of the motorhome. Is this the charger/converter? I don't see any system just that it says it places.
The Banks system is something that was added to the engine that will give it more power and reliability. The converter mentioned on the plaque is an emissions device exemption. This is a good thing.

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O.k. after reading the manual on powerbanks I think that is just to do with the engine. So I really don't think I have a charger/converter.
I'm pretty sure you have one, it might be a little difficult to find.

Most likely the converter/charger is going to be under the fridge as 4Knights suggested or mounted to the floor under the kitchen cabinets. Remove all drawers to inspect, and remove the lower grill cover below (underneath) the fridge.

Here is a picture of a converter/charger. This inteli-power converter should be similar to the one in your MH.
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thanks so much. i will go look in the morning. i have hope.
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try to follow where your power cord goes too,should be connected to that,like in the picture above
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Hi newrvlady,

I think I remember you stating you are going to be camping without electrical hook ups, is this correct?

If so you will need to run the generator (hopefully you have one and it works) to keep the house batteries charged up. If you plug in an automotive type battery charger to a 120 volt outlet on the RV and run the generator it should charge up your chassis battery.

Oh, a genset is the gas powered generator on your MH.
ok when you say plug the battery charger into a 120 v on the r.v. i am confused. Are you saying that when I am dry camping if I plug in a battery charger to the 120v plug on the r.v and the battery charger is not also plugged into shore power but that I am running my generator instead of using shore power that the battery charger will charge my chassis battery?
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On my house battery I noticed that one cable was almost all the way disconnected from the clamp thing. I barely touched this cable and it disconnected. Does anyone know if I need to buy a new cable and clamp. I went to autozone and they did not have any clamps that big. I don't even know what cable that is. It is a big fat one with lots of wires inside. They are all green now because it must have got really corroded.
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On my house battery I noticed that one cable was almost all the way disconnected from the clamp thing. I barely touched this cable and it disconnected. Does anyone know if I need to buy a new cable and clamp. I went to autozone and they did not have any clamps that big. I don't even know what cable that is. It is a big fat one with lots of wires inside. They are all green now because it must have got really corroded.
WOW, that could be the source of a lot of your problems. Were I there I could take care of it in a few minutes. That is not a lot of wires inside the cable, it looks like a number 2 gauge cable and all those wires simply make up the cable. This needs immediate attention.

Ok, that looks like the Positive Cable, due to the color RED of the other wire connected to it. The NEGATIVE cable needs to be disconnected prior to working on it, that is on the other side of the battery. Then with an OHM Meter set on DC voltage check for voltage from that FAT cable with all the wires in it. If it reads 0 or the meter doesn't move, (if it is an analog type) then it is safe to work on. (This is DC voltage Direct Current and at only 12 volts will not shock you, given the right conditions it could burn you but not shock you) So not to worry from that standpoint.

First, with a wire brush, clean the post and the connections as best as you can. Pour some baking soda on the connection then put a little water on it to allow it to clean the connections. A bottle of coke will also work.
Then rinse it off with clean water.

Remove the nut, make a drawing of the connections first or take a picture (Closeup) of the connection. Follow the cable to the other end and remove the nut from it and take the cable and the connection you removed to an auto parts store and get one of the same size and length, and replace it to the same connections.

You could also take the old one to someone like a radiator shop that can do soldering and they could resolder the connection for you. These are usually a compression type fitting so it may be easier to just replace the cable.

Hopefully the cable won't be to long just trace it to the other end and remove it, don't forget to reconnect the negative side of the battery once you have it repaired.

This may fix a lot of your problems, including the trouble with your power jacks, steps etc they are not getting any power

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ok when you say plug the battery charger into a 120 v on the r.v. i am confused. Are you saying that when I am dry camping if I plug in a battery charger to the 120v plug on the r.v and the battery charger is not also plugged into shore power but that I am running my generator instead of using shore power that the battery charger will charge my chassis battery?
Congratulations on finding the bad battery cable!

The answer is yes to your question, but you might not need a battery charger once you get the broken cable repaired.

One other thing, wondering how old the chassis battery is. You mentioned it goes dead in a few days. If the battery is bad and has an internal short, it can run itself dead. Even if there is no electrical being used.

Most auto parts stores do free battery testing, but you would have to get the RV or the battery to them.
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