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04-01-2015, 07:08 PM
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Love and Hate Frameless Windows
My class c has the black, frameless windows. I love the look of them!
But, I hate that water easily sits on the top of them. A couple of mine are leaking and I'm sure it's because of some small gaps in the seals. This is easily fixed and I'll do that this weekend. But, the fix still leaves the fact water will sit on top of them.
I'm thinking about installing black window deflectors on the tops of the windows. These are the normal deflectors you can get for cars and trucks. Since the windows open from the top and hinge outward, a deflector wouldn't impede opening the window. Or, maybe I use a sunroof deflector such as in this picture below.
Any thoughts? Is there a better solution? Or, just a dumb idea? 
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04-01-2015, 07:50 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Location: SoCal
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Anywhere water sits, a problem will follow. I think you might have a good idea.
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Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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04-01-2015, 11:55 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
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The deflectors kind of defeat the design of a FRAMELESS window! How about a bead of silicone across the top.
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2019 Newmar Dutch Star 4018 (Freightliner)
2019 Ford Raptor
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04-02-2015, 06:36 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: western NC mountains!
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this is actually a great idea for my front two driver and passenger sliding windows on my Palazzo - one problem we've encountered is not only rain, but the a/c 'drip' always seems to find it's way here! Because the windows slide open rear-to-front when you want to have a breeze, the a/c drip lands right on the base of the window frame- not only collecting in the bottom of the window frame(inside), but splattering in the coach too.
thanks!
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04-02-2015, 08:44 AM
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We have had the same problem in the past and a bead of silicon corrected the problem. Like any sealing agent, it must be checked and refreshed periodically.
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04-02-2015, 10:58 AM
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I think that frameless windows are actually a cost reduction by the manufacturer. And, they are being "sold" to the RV buying public as the next "gotta have" thing.
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Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don
The deflectors kind of defeat the design of a FRAMELESS window! How about a bead of silicone across the top.
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2005 Safari (Monaco)Trek 28RB2, Workhorse W20, 8.1, Allison 1000 5 spd, UltraPower engine & tranny, Track bars & sway bars, KONI FSD, FMCA 190830, Safari Int'l. chapter. 1999 Safari Trek 2830, 1995 Safari Trek 2430, 1983 Winnebago Chieftain, 1976 Midas Mini
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04-02-2015, 11:57 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by George Schweikle
I think that frameless windows are actually a cost reduction by the manufacturer. And, they are being "sold" to the RV buying public as the next "gotta have" thing.
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Yes. I'm really glad we got a 2014 as my model went to frameless windows in 2015. They do look nice but I've heard lots of complaints about leaking.
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04-02-2015, 12:02 PM
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Sounds like it falls into the category of "just because you can ... doesn't mean you should"
The deflector idea mite be the ticket ....
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04-02-2015, 02:05 PM
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iRV2 No Limits Club
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Do dual pane windows come in frameless?
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04-02-2015, 05:34 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Moorpark, Ca.
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I think the frameless windows look nice and a lot of the new RV's come that way, but they don't flow air as well as having the sliding type that many of us are use to. We bought our coach off the lot new and it had the frameless windows as an upgrade. We've gotten use to them, but there were times when we use to slide open the window and screen on our previous coach and get an unobstructed view or pass items through the window. We miss that.
The frameless have a gap at the top, but you can easily run a bead of silicone around the top and a couple of inches down the side and solve the drip issue. Installing the deflectors may cause some unintended issues. I'm guessing the only way to install them would be to drill and screw them on or take a chance they get blown off in the wind. Now you chance a leak issue. The other problem could be wind noise, especially near the driver's window.
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04-03-2015, 08:38 AM
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Yes the frameless windows come in dual pane.
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04-03-2015, 06:57 PM
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iRV2 No Limits Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jpharley
Yes the frameless windows come in dual pane.
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Darn. Thank you!
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04-03-2015, 08:49 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2002
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I have never noticed water collecting at the top of the windows. We like ours, easy to open and no rain gets in if we are away. That said, we do not open the windows to often as it is even easier to turn on the fan.
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04-03-2015, 09:30 PM
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Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Location: Vancouver, WA
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We have a couple wire cages that attach over a windows for the cats to go outside in. Would have needed to figure out a way to do it with the frameless windows and rebuild the cages to fit. Didn't look real promising due to the operating arms in the way.
Solved the problem by buying an older rig that has the framed windows but I still need to get cages mounted.
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