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Old 01-08-2009, 09:41 AM   #169
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To begin a market for the hibrids.
Opens up a whole new field for the mfg"s.
How does that help the oil companies?

When I heard that any change in the weather, warmer or colder than normal, is due to Global warming I knew we were being scammed. GW has become a new political movement.
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I won't even try to discuss the topic with someone using that kind of reasoning. Nor will I discuss the Global Warming scam with those that claim much colder weather is "proof" of global warming
Thats what is so geat about this country; to each his own opinion.
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Old 01-09-2009, 08:04 AM   #171
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Todays paper said that they were going to increase fines for speeding; red light running; stop sign running; parking fines; and others. so be forwarned; breaking the laws, are going to cost more in Florida.
those with heavy feet will pay dearly.

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Old 01-09-2009, 08:13 AM   #172
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This is nothing unusual - from an article on MSN Money HERE

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Baskin is perhaps the most extreme example confirming what you've long suspected: Tickets are often as much about revenue as safety. And now, as a soured economy or other factors further empty coffers, many are turning to law enforcement to serve as part-time tax collectors -- with guns and badges.

Many states and cities no longer even try to hide that fact.
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They don"t call them taxes any more; the new word is-----user fee-----
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Old 01-09-2009, 09:55 AM   #174
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This is nothing unusual - from an article on MSN Money HERE

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Baskin is perhaps the most extreme example confirming what you've long suspected: Tickets are often as much about revenue as safety. And now, as a soured economy or other factors further empty coffers, many are turning to law enforcement to serve as part-time tax collectors -- with guns and badges.

Many states and cities no longer even try to hide that fact.
Rusty </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Personally, I've always been of the mind that tickets for traveling over 10mph faster than the posted limit (with a max upper speed of 75 being the speed taken into consideration when adding that 10 onto the posted limit 65+10=75) should be in the Thousands of $$$ and not contestable in court.

We have an excessive speeding law here in Oregon that does just that, but the speed it starts at needs to come down to a more realistic level, like 80.

I've also always been of the mind set that if you can't get some place in the amount of time you have on your vacation and reasonably enjoy yourself while traveling at around a reasonable overland speed 50-60mph) then you need to pick a location closer to you or get a job that gives you more vacation time.

Not planning your trip wisely is not an excuse for driving at a reckless speed. High speeds are for sports cars like a Boss Mustang, or a Dodge Charger, that weight in at around 1-2 tons, not RVs that weigh in at multiple tons.
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Since I don't advocate speeding, especially when driving/towing an RV, I'm not quite sure why you chose to quote my post. The article I cited made the point that the issuance of traffic citations and the amount of the corresponding fines is moving away from a safety issue and toward a revenue generation issue. THAT is my complaint.

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Here's a question; yeh; I know it has nothing to to with a 55 MPH speed limit but just for interest:
What industry or who employs the most people in the united states?
You get three guesses and the last two don;t count.
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Be willing to wager its the same Gravy Train I've been trying to get a seat on for the past five years.

Rusty, I think I selected the wrong post to quote.
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Lots of small towns are turning to setting up speed traps. Yeah they say it is a safety issue, but when they set up looking at traffic leaving the city limits and ticketing for going up to highway speed before passing the speed limit signpost it is a revenue generator.
Lowering the speed limit to 55 will not make any difference. They will just set up at the bottom of a hill and catch you making a mistake because you didn't ride the brakes.
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Lots of small towns are turning to setting up speed traps. Yeah they say it is a safety issue, but when they set up looking at traffic leaving the city limits and ticketing for going up to highway speed before passing the speed limit signpost it is a revenue generator.
Lowering the speed limit to 55 will not make any difference. They will just set up at the bottom of a hill and catch you making a mistake because you didn't ride the brakes.
To my knowledge, you're still speeding if you go the freeway speed before you pass the sign that says that denotes the road ahead as that speed.

Hence why I don't accelerate until I'm at least 500 yards past the sign. Also why I count at stop signs for at least 5-10 seconds before moving forward.

And for the record, my average hill descending speed is 45. Barely have to touch the brakes to get that speed too, simple process of upshifting and the vehicles own rolling resistance tends to keep her from going to fast, even down a hill.
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I agree, don't speed and you don't have to worry about tickets.

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What industry employs the most people. I would have guessed "government" but the word 'industry' implies usefull products and we all know government produce nothing, especially anything usefull!

BTW, AZ is raising the trigger point of radar/speeding tickets to 11 MPH over the limit from +10.
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