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Old 01-10-2009, 03:50 PM   #183
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What industry employs the most people. I would have guessed "government" but the word 'industry' implies usefull products and we all know government produce nothing, especially anything usefull
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Old 01-10-2009, 09:01 PM   #184
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I just finished reading this thread from beginning to end. It was captivating and very useful. I drive 55 to 65. I have driven the MH at 75 and really did not care for it. I found the reduction in speed made all the difference in my fatigue and emotional state. MPG improved as well. It is good to know I am not the only person who likes this speed as well. Strong crosswinds always seem to be around when I am driving which keeps my speed around 55-60 for sure. Rain keeps my speed down as well as darkness. I have gained a lot more respect for big rigs and flash when they have completed their pass. Seem to appreciate it. Keeping my rig in good shape is a major, ongoing project with special attention to air pressures and toad connections when traveling.
I thought the 1970's 55 mph law was a miserable failure. Less government appeals to me. The $4.00 per gallon gas suddenly had a lot of small cars and slower drivers out there though.
Thanks to those who posted here, it sure was good.
Just one last thing on wind resistance. Getting my Hyabusa motorcycle to overcome wind resistance between 175 and 185 seemed to take forever. It also dropped the MPG to the high 20's from 45 mpg at legal speeds.
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Old 01-11-2009, 02:18 PM   #185
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Wouldn't you just know it, all this talk about 55 and 65 mph and they just INCREASED the speed limit in Utah to 80 MPH on selected portions of I-15. I wouldn't attempt that in my motorhome, but it sure cuts the drive time to SLC in other vehicles. Drive whatever legal speed you like, just do it in the right lane so non-RV'ers can drive the legal limit if they choose. Everyone seems to want to do their own thing in these posts and defend it, but you have to be considerate of the guy going faster than you as well.
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Old 01-11-2009, 03:44 PM   #186
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Why is it that some folks want to tell other folks how to drive and how to spend their money?

I agree you drive like you won’t to and leave the rest of us alone, anything wrong with that?
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Originally posted by Tom N:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">
I just drove from Maryland to Florida last week. I drive around 60 mph.
If you were towing a trailer or a car and you drove 60 mph in Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina or Georgia you were exceeding the speed limit. All these states have maximum 55 mph when towing laws.

[Source: http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm]

-Tom </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I'm not sure that the info on this chart is correct. In Virginia I don't think that they have a different speed for towing...The interstate here is 65 for trucks and cars...I think years ago (when I was a kid it may have been different, but not now)...
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Old 01-11-2009, 08:29 PM   #188
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Why is it that some folks want to tell other folks how to drive and how to spend their money?

I agree you drive like you won’t to and leave the rest of us alone, anything wrong with that?
As long as one is not engaging in, encouraging or inciting unlawfull/illegal behavior then no there is nothing wrong in driving in the style best suited to you or telling others about it.

However some parts of this thread do push the boundaries and seem to be leaning towards endorsing, justifying and inciting the breaking of the speed laws and replaces abiding by the law with an anything goes approach.

A responsible idividual would have to speak out and point out that the latitude we have is restricted by the limits of the law not our own personal likes, dislikes or perceived driving abilities.

Lets face it most people do not want to live in a society were laws are not obeyed or enforced and everyone can just pick and choose which laws apply to them and which ones do not.

Lowering the speed limit to 55 is not the answer neither is driving at any speed you wish regardless of the posted min and max speed limits.

There is more to it than the posted speed limit and max speed your vehicle can attain one also has to be aware (I have mentioned this before and it bears repeating) that many RV's have tires that are not safe at speeds above 65 Mph and none are safe above 75 Mph. If the speed limit is 80 Mph and your tires are only rated at 65 Mph then you are driving to endanger the moment you exceed 65 Mph.

Not telling you how to drive or spend your money but I am encouraging everyone that no matter how much in a rush we may feel or what our personal preference is we all need to uniformly obey the posted speed limits.

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Old 01-12-2009, 04:46 AM   #189
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However some parts of this thread do push the boundaries and seem to be leaning towards endorsing, justifying and inciting the breaking of the speed laws and replaces abiding by the law with an anything goes approach.

A responsible idividual would have to speak out and point out that the latitude we have is restricted by the limits of the law not our own personal likes, dislikes or perceived driving abilities.

Lets face it most people do not want to live in a society were laws are not obeyed or enforced and everyone can just pick and choose which laws apply to them and which ones do not.

Not telling you how to drive or spend your money but I am encouraging everyone that no matter how much in a rush we may feel or what our personal preference is we all need to uniformly obey the posted speed limits.

Keep it safe!
Also note: Advocating unlawful acts is against iRV2's Terms of Service. A free satellite TV thread was recently shutdown because of advocating unlawful acts.

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Old 01-12-2009, 07:49 AM   #190
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In the Course of Human Events it becomes necessary for...Whoops, wrong thread . Give me Liberty or give me, dog gone it I have severely reprimanded my keyboard for such a display of radicalism ! Its an American thing I guess.

Try this again, I have a little 3126 Cat 330. What speeds give it the best MPG? Seems like when I get it up to 60 or so I get better economy. What RPM range is best? I have an economy mode on it that delays downshifting. Is this a good thing? When is its use best?
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Old 01-12-2009, 11:04 AM   #191
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However some parts of this thread do push the boundaries and seem to be leaning towards endorsing, justifying and inciting the breaking of the speed laws and replaces abiding by the law with an anything goes approach.
I think one needs to be very careful with this sort of perception and to be careful that a difference of opinion is not elevated to something it is not. It is usually not safe to ride on a high horse.

Even the judicial system does not always know just what the law is. That is why our society claims it doesn't consider people guilty until a process has been completed to prove them so. An LEO writing a ticket is not the entire process, it is just one person expressing his opinion.

And then there are philosophical differences about the proper role of government and the rights of individuals among other things.

There is another problem in that many speed limits are not legal in themselves. What path do you follow there? How do you know? What are the consequences?

Also of concern is the question about when the law collides with safety. If someone advocates safety as a priority over the law, are they "endorsing, justifying and inciting the breaking" the law and the user agreement here?

The Az DOT has a good page on making sense of speed limits. Note the use of the term "realistic speed limits" and the sections about what realistic and unrealistic speed limits do.
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BryanL, I agree with your post but I don't understand your comment about,"Many speed limits not are legal in themselves". Could you explain your thinking? If a state or municipality posts a limit, I don't see where any option exists except to drive between the minimum and maximun, and do it safely. Otherwise it becomes 'just another excuse to the cop pulling you over.' I think the underlying issue here is that as responsible drivers we have an obligation to not break the law, but also allow others to travel at safe speeds without impeding them. We live between the Grand Canyon, Bryce and Zion Ntl. Parks, and Lake Powell. In the summer it is loaded with RV traffic. Many are rentals, but the big problem around here is the disregard by the RV'er for other motoring public and locals. Many Rv'ers travel at 45 mph in posted 65 mph zones on 2 lane roads backing up traffic, stop on the road or partially blocking it to shoot pictures, etc. It puts them in bad light with locals who live here and are simply trying to go about day to day business without having their rights compromised. As drivers, if we just pulled off the road to figure out where we are, or make a call, or take a picture, it would go a long way towards improving the image of Rv'ers in general.
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Not sure about other states but in California they have to check the speed actually being driven and adjust the speed limits accordingly. For example, the main street near my home just had the limits raised 5 MPH. If they don't monitor the speeds driven and adjust them as needed, the courts have ruled that they are speed traps. I believe they have to monitor the speeds every 2 years and then adjust them based on what 80% of the drivers are actually driving. I don't believe the law covers interstate highways.
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"No taxation without representation". There goes the keyboard again . I've told it to "cool it" lest it say something inappropriate.

Anyone driving a MH at illegal speeds really needs to have a talk with more than a LEO. Speed limits and traffic laws make a lot of sense and are law as well as guidance to drivers. Many drivers do ignore the law and guidance. In other circumstances a community or LEO may abuse their authority with speed traps and inappropriately low speed limits. The system just is not perfect. You could go to court and encounter a sympathetic judge or a "hanging judge". It just is not a perfect system. " The Redcoats are coming!"
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Just a dumb question. Why is it "safe" to drive (with a toad) my MH 75 in AZ and "unsafe" to drive it over 55 in CA? I drive 60 to 62 on the interstates as that is where I get my best mileage. I also keep a very safe distance from the vehicle in my lane ahead of me. By the way, I avoid anyone in a MH driving 65 plus.
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Just a dumb question. Why is it "safe" to drive (with a toad) my MH 75 in AZ and "unsafe" to drive it over 55 in CA? I drive 60 to 62 on the interstates as that is where I get my best mileage. I also keep a very safe distance from the vehicle in my lane ahead of me. By the way, I avoid anyone in a MH driving 65 plus.
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