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Old 10-17-2015, 11:44 PM   #43
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What comes to my mind when talking about bad grammar is Rap Music!
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Those of you that have a desire to police grammar, may send than you checks to me for keeping you actively engaged...

I have terrible spelling, and english really is a second language to me - which is a shame, as I was born in Key West and the school systems aloud (Low hanging fruit!) me to move along year after year.

I'm not the smartest man, and far from being the slowest in a group. Very good on higher levels of math. A business systems specialist/designer of vast and complex systems. Can solve Rubik's Cubes rapidly, and enjoy winning good bottles of wine while play chess. So for me, I suspect it is either a lazy brain, or a portion of my brain that just does not 'get it' when it comes to grammar. (Yeah, lazy would be more likely!).

So, please, enjoy my posts - and feel free to silently correct them as you read them.

BUT PLEASE, NO TEXT MESSAGES. What in the heck are those people saying with all those fricken abbreviations? LOL! Not! (No really, I quite often ask my mid 30's daughter to help me with what they are saying!!)

Life is too short to let this stuff get to you. And yeah, rap music gets me confused too. But then again, I can recall my Dad claiming that Rock & Roll would never last... Generations bring changes. Some good, some probably bad - but change is change and we either roll with it, or...

Best to all, and my apologies to those that really get rubbed the wrong way from bad grammar or spelling - just avoid my posts, and not hard feelings!
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Old 10-18-2015, 12:25 AM   #45
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Unless the post just doesn't make sense, I usually cut the poster some slack. Often, when something is poorly written, I check where the poster lives. We have many Canadians here who are speaking both French and English and may struggle with writing in English.
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Old 10-18-2015, 01:28 AM   #46
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of course I cannot comment on how you were taught, but yes I was taught how to use the technology of my time. but before we were allowed to use those tools we first had to learn to solve problems without them. teaching to solving a problem with the technology of the time is not teaching you how to solve that problem. in this day and time it is imperative that you are computer literate but I believe it is even more important to be able to function in the event of computer failure. and in answer to your question no I haven't been a student for quite some time. but I have four children the youngest being 14 years old so yes I am still very involved in the school system. you say you spend extra hours before and after school to help students I find that very commendable. I live in los angeles and where I have known teachers that have actually cared enough to go the extra mile it has been rare. but as I said earlier I could go on and on. but I will say if I have offended you I apologize, it's not my intention to imply that there are no good teachers out there but I've seen so many bad
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I must say my mind has changed thoroughly on this subject over the past several years. As an engineering student, I thought it is was great that I could get a degree at the highest rated undergraduate engineering school in the nation without taking any English courses.I now think everyone needs a large dose of liberal arts education.Mathematics is great, machines are sublime, but at the end of the day, it is people that make things happen.Expressing one’s self is a necessity.Expressing one’s self well is a true advantage.The English language can be used to barely express, adequately express or express to impress.One can use grammar, syntax and spelling in a way that is suitable for you or in a way that is suitable for your audience.It seems many people today choose the former.You may know what you want to express (and then again, you may not), but unless you use the proper form your audience may be left in the dark.

Having said that, I remain a horrible typist. I am also very impatient.This combination makes some of my prose appear to be nonsensical.I’m working on it.
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Retired in 2006 after 35 years in the classroom. There are many things wrong with the educational system to many to discuss adequately on these forums. It really boils down to a few things. I expected my students to perform. I expected them to try their best no matter the task. If they didn't I had little recourse, choice, or means to encourage them to try harder. We were fighting parents who believed their kids did no wrong. The kids didn't work for the grade or work to learn. That attitude was created and encouraged by parents who gave them everything and expected nothing in return. When kids are raised in that environment they have no reason to work at or for anything. Yes we are speaking of the age when kids get a medal for participation and not performance. We don't allow kids to fail. When was the last time you heard of a kid being held back in school?? They are passed on just because they occupied space in a seat.

I put partial blame on the A,B,C,D,F system of grades. Teachers have 30 kids setting in a desk and expect the small group to produce some of each letter grade. Remember it's called the, "Bell shaped Curve." Worst method of comparison of individuals ever conceived. The entire world grades individuals on a pass fail system. Either you meet the bosses expectations or you don't. There is no in between. How is using the A thru F system preparing kids for life??? It's not.

Now we have kids who don't want to work, won't work, have been handed in their rooms, a TV, a Cell phone, X-Box etc. and they have no skin in the game. They don't have to leave their room to experience everything both good and bad in the world. When they get to school they analyze each teacher and determine the least they need to do to just get a passing grade for credit.

The parents are failing in their job to demand excellence. They and the schools are are taking the easy path and it shows.

The real proof in what I'm talking about are the many stories of kids who were raised by a single Mom, Ben Carson and Isiah Thomas come to mind (Both from Detroit). Their Moms expected excellence, instilled success and did the job of raising their kids correctly. God was important in their lives. They read all the time. Nothing was handed to them without some consequences.

There are about 10 to 15 different movies about special teachers who did wonders in the classrooms. You can google that idea/phrase and find them. There's a common thread throughout all of them. Every one of them operated outside the box. They all did things that went against the administration and yet every one of them were highly successful. That should tell you something of the solution.

There's a movie that i saw several years ago. Actually my Son put me on to it. It's called, "Waiting for Superman." You can find it on the net. True story of a guy in NY who beat the odds. He set up Charter schools and is highly successful with ghetto kids who have no chance but yet he proves it's not $$$$$ but GOOD classroom teachers who make the difference. Well worth finding buying and watching

My previous comments do not include all teachers or students. There are many who succeed in spite of the system but they are becoming fewer all the time. The easiest path is just that, it's easy.

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Kids today are being taught that Billy has two mommies or is that mommy's??
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Those of you that have a desire to police grammar, may send than you checks to me for keeping you actively engaged...

I have terrible spelling, and english really is a second language to me - which is a shame, as I was born in Key West and the school systems aloud (Low hanging fruit!) me to move along year after year.

I'm not the smartest man, and far from being the slowest in a group. Very good on higher levels of math. A business systems specialist/designer of vast and complex systems. Can solve Rubik's Cubes rapidly, and enjoy winning good bottles of wine while play chess. So for me, I suspect it is either a lazy brain, or a portion of my brain that just does not 'get it' when it comes to grammar. (Yeah, lazy would be more likely!).

So, please, enjoy my posts - and feel free to silently correct them as you read them.

BUT PLEASE, NO TEXT MESSAGES. What in the heck are those people saying with all those fricken abbreviations? LOL! Not! (No really, I quite often ask my mid 30's daughter to help me with what they are saying!!)

Life is too short to let this stuff get to you. And yeah, rap music gets me confused too. But then again, I can recall my Dad claiming that Rock & Roll would never last... Generations bring changes. Some good, some probably bad - but change is change and we either roll with it, or...

Best to all, and my apologies to those that really get rubbed the wrong way from bad grammar or spelling - just avoid my posts, and not hard feelings!
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I think he doned it on purpose too

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Relax folks. This is just a forum about RV's and RV problems and how to fix those problems. We are not on here to solve the worlds problems. And if we were this would not be at the top of my "Problem List".
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Relax folks. This is just a forum about RV's and RV problems and how to fix those problems. We are not on here to solve the worlds problems. And if we were this would not be at the top of my "Problem List".

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I have to agree with the original poster about one thing.......this is the wrong place for this!
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