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10-20-2019, 07:06 AM
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2019
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More detail on Senior Park Pass cuts
https://www.rvtravel.com/seniors-tak...pass-proposal/
Looks like they want to cut the discount on upcharges to the camping fee. But the big problem is cutting the discount all together during peak season. Pay full charges all summer long?
Don't like it, now is the time to call your senators and congressmen:
House: (352) 732-1313
Senate: (202) 224-3121
Calls are the most effective but you can email them too, just write your own email don't use a form letter.
I'm not sure if this applies to Access Passes too.
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10-20-2019, 07:22 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Grasonville, MD -- Golden, CO
Posts: 6,222
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Agesilaus
https://www.rvtravel.com/seniors-tak...pass-proposal/
Looks like they want to cut the discount on upcharges to the camping fee. But the big problem is cutting the discount all together during peak season. Pay full charges all summer long?
Don't like it, now is the time to call your senators and congressmen:
House: (352) 732-1313
Senate: (202) 224-3121
Calls are the most effective but you can email them too, just write your own email don't use a form letter.
I'm not sure if this applies to Access Passes too.
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What are we proposing as an alternative to the Senior Pass Changes?
Think that any reduction in Senior Benefits should be Matched with EQUAL Increases in the Regular rate. Simple example - if the reduction in Senior rates is 50% then the increase in Normal rates for these Blackout dates should be increased. ??? - 50 % - ??? or some fair amount, as is the Mission to make these parks only for the Rich and Privileged . ?
I would suggest that they NP Service - open some on the National Forest land outside the National Parks to New Recreational Facilities that would have/allow Private investment with unregulated/or at least differently regulated rates - and then they might be able to leave the National Parks as they are.
Just a thought,
I'll make another Call to my Congressman,
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10-20-2019, 08:06 AM
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Senior Member/RVM #90
Monaco Owners Club
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Location: Columbus, MS
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I'll be calling my Senators and Representatives this week!
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2002 Monaco Windsor 40PBT, 2013 Honda CRV AWD
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10-20-2019, 09:03 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Beaver Dam, Wisconsin
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National and State Campground Fees
I do enjoy the low camping fees at National Parks, Forest, and free entrance fees at National Monuments. I don't really want that privilege to go away.
On the other hand, power is slowly passing from seniors to younger folks. Fees for seniors are bound to increase. The change has already come to Wisconsin and some other State Parks.
One of the arguments used by Wisconsin politicians was that the cost of entry and camping in State Parks was small compared to other costs campers were already paying. Costs of driving to the parks, costs of food, equipment, and other travel related things have increased by orders of magnitude over camping fees.
Personally, I am conflicted. If I camp outside a National Park, I pay four or five times as much and get almost no recreational facilities that I want to use. I do not want to see National and State Parks close for lack of maintenance or become over crowded for lack of capacity.
I oppose using commercial companies who are not regulated closely. Prices will soar out of control. Recreational facilities will deteriorate until they are essentially gone.
I can pay the proposed increased costs easily as can most RV and TT owners. Not every retired person is so lucky. Increasing costs of "upcharges" is the least onerous change policy makers can do and will affect low income seniors the least.
It is going to happen sooner or later.
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10-20-2019, 09:32 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Where we park it!
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I will be calling on Monday.
IF all fees were increased then the 50% discount, at a higher price for seniors, would be ok. The change from $10 to $80 was pretty steep for some.
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10-20-2019, 01:00 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Enjoying the Western States!
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$80 for a LIFETIME is not steep!!!
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10-20-2019, 01:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2015
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I have had a senior pass for a while now but back when they announced the price rise from $10 to $80 I purchased a second card to have a spare in case something happened to the first. Yes, I am that frugal...
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10-20-2019, 01:51 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Comancheria
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I want them to call it an Old People pass. I find the euphemism "senior" offensive in that it implies there's something wrong with being old.
I feel better now.
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10-20-2019, 02:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Sarasota, FL
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Thanks for the heads up. Emails sent to my reps.
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10-20-2019, 02:44 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Cedar Falls, IA
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I am in favor of most of the rising prices for seniors. When I had children at home, we had to pay full price for everything. No life time passes - we bought a new one yearly. That pass provided no discount on camping or other fees either. We seniors use the facilities so why shouldn’t we pay more to get them updated? Just saying “Keep everything the same for me, but charge everybody else more,” seems like sticking your head in the sand.
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10-20-2019, 02:56 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
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I don't have an opinion either way, but if they increase the prices or decrease the discount, will it actually go to the park, or into the government coffers. It's always such a scam. They increase prices, give the increase to the park, then reduce the park's base budget by the amount of the increase.
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10-20-2019, 04:53 PM
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Tariffs collected set to reach 100 Billion by the end of the year , that could get a couple miles of NF road ways repaired.
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10-20-2019, 05:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Houston TX.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dutch Star Don
I don't have an opinion either way, but if they increase the prices or decrease the discount, will it actually go to the park, or into the government coffers. It's always such a scam. They increase prices, give the increase to the park, then reduce the park's base budget by the amount of the increase.
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I agree with Don. I am apposed to any increase in fees. The government gets enough of our cash already. Time to reallocate some of the money they already get from us. I Came from a state that put in the lottery. They told us the schools would benefit from the increased revenue. The schools got nothing extra. The state reduced to schools the amount the lottery brought in. Like others my wife and I will be calling next week to let our views be known.
Enjoy the journey
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10-20-2019, 07:40 PM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FatChance
I have had a senior pass for a while now but back when they announced the price rise from $10 to $80 I purchased a second card to have a spare in case something happened to the first. Yes, I am that frugal...
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We actually did the same thing.
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