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Old 02-10-2019, 04:09 PM   #1
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Mpls RV Show Made us Glad to Have what we Have

My wife and I went to the RV show in Minneapolis yesterday. We're not really looking to buy new (although we have been thinking about maybe moving up to a 2012 or 2013 model)...we just like to walk around and see what the new RV's look like.


Well, this is the 2nd RV show we have been to this year and I have never seen so many RV's actually falling apart already and they have not even been sold. One had the facia's on the inside of the slides literally falling down. They were only held on by some cheap staples. Other's had slide doors inside coming off the hinges. Several had various moldings coming off...one rig's moldings were literally only held on with two-sided tape! Even if not falling apart yet, numerous rigs had floors so soft, from either thin flooring and/or joists spaced too far apart, that they felt like walking on a trampoline. Cabinets and furniture looked like junk.



The only quality we saw in non-motorized was the Arctic Fox brand and Airstream...of course both were higher cost, but to me, they would be worth it if I were buying non-motorized.


We also looked at the Newmar and Tiffin diesel pushers. Now clearly these were not in the same class as I've described, but one thing we did notice is that the warm, hand-rubbed finish type woodwork of old is being replaced by wood covered in something that almost looks like a plasticized finish. In fact, my SIL asked me if the wood in a Newmar Mountain Aire we were in was real, it looked so "plastic." I assured him it was, but it must be the finish. The Tiffin's didn't have quite that kind of look, but it still wasn't like it used to be. Probably just "old" me loving the beautiful way wood use to be finished instead of what "modern" society wants today.



In the end, we walked out just glad to have what we have!
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I prefer satin yacht like finishes, modern but classic, just look at a yacht. RV's definitely going toward high gloss finishes, not my taste. Newmar and Tiffin at least using real wood again high gloss finish and all sorts of vegas like frills...
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Something to think about….if you didn't buy your current coach new, then you may not have been involved in the front hood and rear engine cover coming off of your coach, because they were glued on. My sister had the same coach as yours and there were some poor things that Winnebago did, like the three 12 volt batteries versus four six volt.

I'm not criticizing your coach, but just showing that they all have some issues that later have to be corrected or have a design change. One thing nice in your coach is the woodwork. Winnie did a good job. Newmar has an optional high gloss clear coat that they use on their cabinetry, typically ordered on most coaches and possibly standard on a Mountain Aire.
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I always look and am glad we have what we have because of the crazy ways they have changed the floorplans. They are trying to replicate a house but it makes everything so inefficient IMO.
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Something to think about….if you didn't buy your current coach new, then you may not have been involved in the front hood and rear engine cover coming off of your coach, because they were glued on.
Had issues with my hood, some kind of glue, let go after a year, used West System to fix it like a boat, replaced a lot of other things with marine grade hardware too such as combiner relay an switches

Coach builders need to learn from the marine industry I want my interior to look like a nice trawler.
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RV builders build what RV buyers buy.

Simple as that.

Includes finishes as well as quality. If folks would stop buying junk then builders would stop building junk.
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We were at the Houston show this weekend. I too am disappointed in most of the motor homes. I looked at a Tiffin Zephyr. I was not impressed. The interior finishes have taken on a European look. All slick and glossy with no character. I guess I am old fashioned....

Fit and finish on many models not getting any better. Keeping what we have.
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Had issues with my hood, some kind of glue, let go after a year, used West System to fix it like a boat, replaced a lot of other things with marine grade hardware too such as combiner relay an switches

Coach builders need to learn from the marine industry I want my interior to look like a nice trawler.
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RV builders build what RV buyers buy.

Simple as that.

Includes finishes as well as quality. If folks would stop buying junk then builders would stop building junk.
There's a big difference between people who buy a nice trawler and people who buy a travel trailer. If RVs were built to marine standards, there would be a whole lot fewer RVs sold.
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It would be nice if a $20K trailer could look like a $750K yacht.
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There's a big difference between people who buy a nice trawler and people who buy a travel trailer. If RVs were built to marine standards, there would be a whole lot fewer RVs sold.
Well thought we where talking about diesel pushers and its pretty easy is to spend trawler money on one. Still though satin finishes and less glitzy interior with some focus on quality rather than features could be had with reasonable prices even in travel trailers.

I had a 30 Year old Boston Whaler with real teak, the fiberglass/gelcoat hull, wood and hardware still in great shape. Wish I could get a MH built like an upside down Boston Whaler.
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Wish I could get a MH built like an upside down Boston Whaler.
You can, starting at about 1.5 mil $ and going up.
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You can, starting at about 1.5 mil $ and going up.
This it what $1.5 million dollar coach seems to look like now:

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Looks like a bordello IMHO
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Looks like a bordello IMHO


So do most yachts
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