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Old 02-11-2015, 08:56 PM   #1
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Need your help in calculating how much weight I can take with me. I'm looking at buying a 2007 Ford E450 B+ and trying to figure out if I'm correctly calculating the carrying capacity.

2007 Ford E450 GVWR = 14,050 lbs
Unloaded weight with full tank of gas = 12,545 lbs
44 gallons of water @ 8lbs/gallon = 365 lbs
11 gallons of lp gas @ 4.2lbs/gallon = 48 lbs
Adults @ 170 lbs/adult = 340 lbs
Kids @ 110 lbs/kid = 220 lbs

Does this mean I can only bring 500 lbs worth of stuff?

If the GCWR is 18,500 and hitch rating is 5,000 lbs, what's my limit for my toad, do I need to worry about tongue weight?
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Where are you getting the unloaded weight of the vehicle? Scales?
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Need your help in calculating how much weight I can take with me. I'm looking at buying a 2007 Ford E450 B+ and trying to figure out if I'm correctly calculating the carrying capacity.

2007 Ford E450 GVWR = 14,050 lbs
Unloaded weight with full tank of gas = 12,545 lbs
44 gallons of water @ 8lbs/gallon = 365 lbs
11 gallons of lp gas @ 4.2lbs/gallon = 48 lbs
Adults @ 170 lbs/adult = 340 lbs
Kids @ 110 lbs/kid = 220 lbs

Does this mean I can only bring 500 lbs worth of stuff?

If the GCWR is 18,500 and hitch rating is 5,000 lbs, what's my limit for my toad, do I need to worry about tongue weight?
You are correct about the 500lbs... It depends on how you will tow your toad. If you use a tow dolly, it might add a bit of weight to the tongue. If you use a tow bar, it won't add much of any weight to the tongue.

If you added 500lbs to your tongue, you would be at your E450's max GVWR. Your maximum toad weight would be 4,450lbs.

Your vehicle loaded, according to your calculations is: 13,518lbs out of 14,050lbs.

GCWR is 18,500lbs. Minus the 13,518lbs is 4,982lbs. That is the absolute maximum, your toad/tow bar/tow dolly combination can weigh.

Hope this helps..
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You have discovered the shortcoming of large Class C motorhomes: the van chassis is pretty well maxxed out with just the coach body and people onboard.

You want a Class A to get a reasonable CCC in the 30+ foot range. Or one of the Super-C's based on a medium truck chassis (Jayco Seneca or similar).
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You are correct about the 500lbs... It depends on how you will tow your toad. If you use a tow dolly, it might add a bit of weight to the tongue. If you use a tow bar, it won't add much of any weight to the tongue.

If you added 500lbs to your tongue, you would be at your E450's max GVWR. Your maximum toad weight would be 4,450lbs.

Your vehicle loaded, according to your calculations is: 13,518lbs out of 14,050lbs.

GCWR is 18,500lbs. Minus the 13,518lbs is 4,982lbs. That is the absolute maximum, your toad/tow bar/tow dolly combination can weigh.

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You have discovered the shortcoming of large Class C motorhomes: the van chassis is pretty well maxxed out with just the coach body and people onboard.

You want a Class A to get a reasonable CCC in the 30+ foot range. Or one of the Super-C's based on a medium truck chassis (Jayco Seneca or similar).
Agree with both of these. I am a bit surprised the E450 MH vehicle weight is that high though, you could verify that weight with a quick weight at a truck stop or other scale location. The Class C van chassis are just about always near the limit it seems, especially with some tongue weight from a trailer.
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Its all a guess until you actually put it on the scales. I'm guessing you haven't bought it yet?
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Its all a guess until you actually put it on the scales. I'm guessing you haven't bought it yet?
Yep, right how it's all guesswork. To OP, the RV industry ordinarily uses 153# for weight of a driver-no passengers, 1/2 tank fuel, empty holding tanks, full fresh water tank. Your only recourse is to obtain actual weight now, then add necessary figures,IE: every item you wish to take along on a trip.
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timetogo, you're correct I haven't bought it yet and unfortunately it's on the other side of the country.

I was about to call the manufacturer and they were able to look up the weight information based on the VIN. The send me the build card along with additional information on the vehicle weight. My wife and I are trying to decide if we want to buy this Class B+ and this is one of the last thing we're working through. We already had the unit inspected and everything checked out, the only thing remaining is the carrying capacity. If it's true that we only have approximately 500 lbs. available we might decide on a Class A instead.

We're new to MH and just want to make sure we buy a unit that can accommodate us safely.
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If the GCWR is 18,500 and hitch rating is 5,000 lbs, what's my limit for my toad, do I need to worry about tongue weight?
If the coach is loaded to the full 14,500 lbs, then you have only 4000 lbs left for the toad (18,500-14,500=4000). But tongue weight is insignificant with 4-down towing - just the 25 or so lbs for the tow bar.
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