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Old 01-25-2016, 12:08 PM   #15
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Even though there is some level of disagreement among these recommendations, I am finding this all very helpful - thanks! Please keep the comments coming - it is all useful information.

This is a Phaeton 40QBH - the build sheet says $316K when built.
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200k offer would be a good starting point Very nice coach and layout
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Old 01-25-2016, 05:10 PM   #17
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I would start at 35% on a 2016 or 2017. I agree with some of the other posters and would start at 40% on the 2015. If you're financing, you might want to see what your lender thinks.
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Old 01-25-2016, 05:54 PM   #18
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if a dealer wont quote me a price im out the DOOR
PERIOD END OF STORY
if they play games on price , look for games at closing,at pdi and service
if a merchant doesn't respect me enough to give ma price he does not get my respect or dollars
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Old 01-25-2016, 07:54 PM   #19
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Hah - I more or less quoted TNCruiser's comments at the dealer, and got this back:

"Assuming we still have this coach when you are ready to buy it, I would think you could expect to buy possibly around the $239,000 mark, plus tax, tag and $589 dealer prep. Maybe a little less. I assure you, when you are ready to buy; I will get you the best possible price."

$316K x 70% (30% discount) = $221.2K
$316K x 65% (35% discount) = $205.4K
$316K x 60% (40% discount) = $189.6K

$239K seems WAY off.

How do you find a mechanic to do a predelivery inspection on a coach being sold in a town where the dealership is almost certainly in cahoots with the inspectors?
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Old 01-26-2016, 06:11 AM   #20
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It looks like its around 24.367% discount.
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Old 01-26-2016, 08:09 AM   #21
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Give the dealer your offer. If they don't accept it, move on. You could get a newer year coach for not much difference over the one you are looking at.
In your dealings with that particular dealer, it does make me wonder about things after the sale: warranty, service, etc.
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"In your dealings with that particular dealer, it does make me wonder about things after the sale: warranty, service, etc."

The dealer is in FL and we will be mostly in the western US - I have no plans to return to FL after picking it up, and it's a Tiffin, so I would be looking for an authorized Tiffin dealer wherever we are. So the dealer is not important to me.
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Not a fan of working with dealers ..... when you find the coach that is "the one" continue to shop ... hopefully finding a private party to work with ... and hopefully any issues that existed when new have been dealt with ..... there are always a few.
It appears they have given you a ball park of what you can expect come purchase time. It's very difficult to get to the final price until you're ready to sign the deal and put down the cash ....
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It looks like its around 24.367% discount.
Not enough off. No wonder they still have it!
When we ordered our '02 DSDP we got 27% off and that was a brand new rig built to our specifications.
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What has not been mentioned is that the cost to the dealer has gone up due to flooring interest for two years. I have found that I could get a better discount by custom ordering that buying off the floor. The dealer does not incur large interest costs, though that is a lot less these days.
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Hah - I more or less quoted TNCruiser's comments at the dealer, and got this back:

"Assuming we still have this coach when you are ready to buy it, I would think you could expect to buy possibly around the $239,000 mark, plus tax, tag and $589 dealer prep. Maybe a little less. I assure you, when you are ready to buy; I will get you the best possible price."

$316K x 70% (30% discount) = $221.2K
$316K x 65% (35% discount) = $205.4K
$316K x 60% (40% discount) = $189.6K

$239K seems WAY off.

How do you find a mechanic to do a predelivery inspection on a coach being sold in a town where the dealership is almost certainly in cahoots with the inspectors?
Price out that coach Brand new at another dealer and compare prices.....
200k seems more than fair for a 2 yr old NEW Coach 239k not so much
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My wife and I are about in the same boat. Will be buying later this year, and our local Newmar dealer still has new '14 rig on the lot.

Of course, they are asking way too much for it (16% off MSRP).

The coach matches our desires, and if it's still there, we'll make an offer, but won't be heart broke if they don't want to sell it to us. Honestly, for them to have that coach this long and asking that much says they aren't real anxious to sell it. They are just waiting for someone with deep pockets and a shallow skull.

We'll offer 35% off MSRP. If they don't like it, we'll move on.

My wife takes the same approach with any auto or rv purchase. We do extensive research, come up with a price we are willing to pay and tell the dealer to take it or leave it. We may not always get the best deals possible, but we don't waste half a day haggling. With 30 years of purchasing, we've only had to walk away twice, and both times we got the deal somewhere else.
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Negotiaste Price

I also like the booth dinette. Why is it so hard to find them in DP. Offer them 40% off list . If not walk .
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