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Old 10-28-2016, 08:05 AM   #1
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We have owned a Forest River 2007 Class C Lexington and are upgrading to a Class A RV. We are undecided as to length. We have been looking at the Winnebago 29VE and 30T as well as Bounder 33C. We plan on using it as a couple but also taking grandkids occasionally or friends. Any advice is welcome. Thank you!
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Old 10-28-2016, 08:24 AM   #2
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Well it's up to you but I would go as big as you can if you are gonna upgrade. Plus check out some used ones. You will save a lot of money even if you buy a used one from a dealer that's what we did
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Old 10-28-2016, 11:16 AM   #3
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I would go with a larger used DP!

If you find one you're interested in, do a LOT of research on known problems with that model.
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Old 10-28-2016, 11:40 AM   #4
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I would go with a larger used DP!

If you find one you're interested in, do a LOT of research on known problems with that model.
This may be good advise if you plan on using for long trips with lots of miles and living in it for long stretches of time but if you use it like we do, once a month or so for shorter excursions, then I would be inclined to go with the gas models. They all do the same thing when you are parked and enjoying the RV life.
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Old 10-29-2016, 11:51 AM   #5
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I'll base my repsponse on your consideration for the Bounder 33C, as I am familiar with that coach, as it was a consideration for us as well.

It is only 2 of us, younger than many here on the forum, no pets, and we are not large folks, any of which can / do have an impact on how big of a coach you will be comfortable with. We also have no need to tow anything more than 5,000 pounds. So, just setting a foundation....

Our 2015 31SA, similar to the 33C, is our first RV. We ordered it exactly how we wanted it, picked it up in March 2015. We started looking at mid-entry level gassers given our preliminary budget, but once we saw the Tiffins, our decision was made very quickly, with original budget out the window.

We have over 15,000 miles of travel, and have traveled over 7 months in the last year and a half. Our trips have included three 1 month trips, and this summer a 3 month and 6,300 mile adventure to the Rockies.

We have yet to see any coach, new or used, that make us second guess our choice. When we started looking, we quickly determined that we were not interested in gassers more than a year or two old given what we felt were some significant improvements over the last couple of years, and when it came down to our "true all in cost" (coach, taxes, toad related costs, equipping the coach, and having a warranty) and getting exactly what we wanted, the cost savings of a "near new" used unit was not compelling. Saving money buying what you don't really want costs a lot of money sooner or later.

As for older DPs, we really had and still have, no interest in a 10-12 year old coach (to even get reasonably close to what we paid) for a long list of reasons. As for those that like the older coaches, good for them, and I am happy they are happy.

As far as the myth of gassers in the mountains, when it comes down to the time you actually spend driving significant grades where you do get slow, and maybe a bit loud, the miles and time spent in those situations is really negligible to the total time spent driving, much less vs. total time in the coach. We've made to every campground that $2M Prevosts get to, and so does every other gasser (in good mechanical condition, which can be said of DPs too).

There is no one or perfect answer........ Which is actually a great thing. You need to determine what is most important for you, then go with it. But don't be that paranoid about a new coach, as there are many horror stories on buying used too..........

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DebbyJ51 - First post, and welcome to the gang!

You didn't say if used or new, but assume new(?).

I'd suggest looking at Newmar equivalent lineup in gassers. Baystar to Canyon Star lines.

If you don't mind going used, and a bit older, look for a Mountain Aire gasser. They usually came on the Workhorse chassis with the 8.1 and either 5 or 6 spd Allison, depending upon model year. The Mountain Tire is one of the higher quality gas units you can fine.

Also a bit older, and an orphan coach that is of matter to you, the Dolphin coaches from National were a good bang for the buck, and well built coaches.

And Betr2Trvl is correct that gasser's will get you to where you want to go. We had a blast in our new to us used older 98 T28 Bounder, on the 99 F53 chassis. We did nick name it Rattle and Roo (Kangaroo being the Bounder mascot.), as it sure did sing to us as it rattled along these oh so terrible roadways. (Not knocking our T28 at all, two trips to Alaska before we bought it, so it earned each and everyone of those rattles!.

If you've read many of the posts on this board, you will find that many of us have contrary opinions. And that is OK, as we all look at things from different angles. For example, it is my opinion. That a higher quality used diesel, even 10-12 years of age, will be a superior coach at age say 15-17 - then many of the new coaches sold today (Gas or Diesel.). The higher end coaches (Foretravel, Country Coach, Alpine, Wanderlodge, Travel Supreme, Monaco Dynasty and above, Beaver, etc., etc. - all have superior chassis, which makes a solid foundation to build a house coach on. They are worthy of remodeling/refreshing of interiors, just like an older home of solid construction is worthy of remodels too. The mechanical parts of these coaches, with good maintenance, will last for several decades. We know one gent with a mid 90's Monaco Signature that now has just over 425K miles on his coach. With normal maintenance, and replacement of a crashed exhaust manifold, and I believe he also replaced an alternator and starter in that time frame too. Not excessive in the repair department, is my view. And these higher end coaches run down the roadways in more comfort and again IMO, add an extra level of safety. Having a Jake Compression Brake for mountain driving is a safety edge. They also have much more CCC then most coaches. (Our coach has 11, 500+ lbs of CCC. And useable, with a good balance between rear and steer axles.)

You are asking about gassers. So I did answer and give an opinion on gassers. I only went into the Diesel comparisons, as for some this is a sound decision. And I did have a contrary opinion on age vs newer!

Happy hunting, and enjoy the research process,
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