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Old 07-06-2016, 10:49 PM   #1
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Newmar or country coach

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Wondering what everybody's experience is with newmar quality? and how you would rate their quality against country coach? We were almost ready to pull the trigger on a 2006 country coach magna we liked. very good condition, 50k miles. Cat 525 at a Fair price. But then I came onto a deal on a 2007 newmar Mountain aire 45 with a cummins 450, it has extremely low miles it was a one owner always garaged. The interior seems to be A little fancier the cabinet seem to be a little nicer etc. but I am not real familiar with the newmars. Both floorplans are about the same. And would like them both what it really comes down to is build quality which one is going to last longer, with less problems. The price is about the same on both of them I realize the magna is higher on the food chain, but the Mountainair is a 2007 . Thanks in advance
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Both are nice and cannot go wrong with either as long as you do the due diligence to ensure to the extent possible you are getting a good coach.

Low miles may not be a great indicator as IMO lack of use can cause many issues.
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I totally agree with you. And that's part of the problem. The Newmar I know the owner and I know it was garage taken well care of. The magna appears to be in great shape but I do not have any maintenance records on it and I do not know who the previous owner was. I know the country coaches are built rock solid as were the Monaco's. I just don't have any knowledge of the Newmars quality. They look great but I don't know what's underneath them.
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We full-timed with a Newmar Dutch Star for 8 years, traveling constantly, including Alaska. It was an awesome motorhome. We also had a Cummins. It was a baby...only 370 but it got us up many mountains - our favorite places. No problems. If you check these forums you'll find many satisfied Newmar owners.

Also look at the Owner's Forum.
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You know the Newmar history and it's owner. Mx records are available and presumably all is good. You know nothing about the Country Coach other than it has a good reputation as does the Newmar.

I think the decision has already been made.
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We were faced with a similar decision in 2013 when we bought our Allure. We looked at several Mountain Aires and a couple of Essex coaches before finally deciding to get the Allure. We liked the fact that Newmar was still in business for factory support if needed. We really liked the quality and looks of the Allure but were wary of an orphan coach. We discovered, however, that there was still a lot of support for Country Coaches.

We love the Allure and I do think the CC build quality is hard to top. However, if any of the MA's and Essex's we looked at had been better maintained, we would have just as likely ended up with one of those.

I agree that knowing the previous owner and having a service history is a big plus. If the Mountain Aire otherwise meets all your needs/wants, that seems to be a big factor in its favor. I do believe that in these bigger/heavier coaches, more HP is a plus. There are times when I wish I had a 525 CAT in mine.


Have you driven both for comparison?
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Newmar quality is better than most and on a par with the best. However, the CC Magna was a much pricier coach than a Mountain Aire, and I should think it would have upgraded features and specifications compared to the Mountain Aire. A plus for the Magna.

The Newmars are still in full production and factory support is excellent. Country Coach factory is not producing and support is limited. Advantage Newmar.

Personally I would favor the Newmar for the better factory support and the better known history.
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We were where you are about 1-1/2 years ago. We found a gem that had been perfectly maintained and garaged as well. The MADP line was upgraded a lot between 06-07 with the ISM, Allison 4000, and K2 chassis. It mirrors the Essex with less bling. There are several happy owners of the 07 MADP here on this site. They have been an asset to me, along the way. Which model is the MADP?
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I totally agree with you. And that's part of the problem. The Newmar I know the owner and I know it was garage taken well care of. The magna appears to be in great shape but I do not have any maintenance records on it and I do not know who the previous owner was. I know the country coaches are built rock solid as were the Monaco's. I just don't have any knowledge of the Newmars quality. They look great but I don't know what's underneath them.
Starting to sound very much like a wash and depends upon which floor plan and amenities suit you the best.

One thing to look at is the amount of use. Really gently used engines and generators can be problematic. It seems like any engine that sits around for a while can be worse off than one that is used regularly. Seals dry out, fuel goes bad which can result in many frustrations when you try to use them.
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Newmar quality is better than most and on a par with the best. However, the CC Magna was a much pricier coach than a Mountain Aire, and I should think it would have upgraded features and specifications compared to the Mountain Aire. A plus for the Magna.

The Newmars are still in full production and factory support is excellent. Country Coach factory is not producing and support is limited. Advantage Newmar.

Personally I would favor the Newmar for the better factory support and the better known history.
WGO has recently purchased CC. The jury is out on the outcome of the purchase but I suspect CC will continue to be a premier coach. WGO says business will continue.
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As has been stated above, both are good high end build quality units. As you stated, Monoco, Travel Supreme, and Holiday Rambler could be included as well. Best of luck with your choice.
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Thank you for all the responses the model is a 2007 mountain Aire 4523. It has 18,000 miles on it & 200 hours on the generator . It looks immaculate. Tough decision I really like the country coach & was already To buy it before I stumbled onto this newmar. The CC magna has 54,000 miles on it. Pros and cons to both, one is a year older obviously with more miles, and the other being newer with less miles. The newmar I know has never been lived in And had always been maintained. I guess it's tough because I've always had the understanding peoples opinions of the country coach have been the build quality is superior to newmar. Like mention both floorplans are are almost identical. For me and it just comes down to build quality.
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Just my opinion, but I would look carefully again at both and drive them and check the chassis well (maybe have a professional inspection). The MA has only 2,000 miles per year so I would question how long it has sat without being driven. Not a show stopper for sure but something to consider.

Regardless of which you finally select, I would budget at least $2,000 - $3,000 for a stem to stern chassis service: all fluids/filters, belts, air dryer, chassis lube, rear differential lube, coolant drain/flush/refill, etc. Our coach had been maintained well by the previous owner but sat on a dealer's lot for a few months. I wanted to start with a clean slate so I had my local Cummins Coach Care shop give it a good physical and changed everything. I would also consider pulling engine oil and tranny fluid samples for analysis.
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All throw my two cents in and muddy the waters and probably anger a few people. Here are a couple of mechanical things to consider. Most likely the CC with the 525HP has a 4000 Allison trans, while I'm only guessing that the Mountain Aire with the 450 only has the Allison 3000. The 525 Cat has more HP, but we passed on a beautiful Patriot Thunder because of the 525 Cat motor, it's a fuel guzzler.

Whenever you see a Country Coach, it always looks so nice because of the paint work and a lot of clear coat. Newmar is not up to that level of paint, not unless you climb higher in the line.
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