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Old 07-12-2010, 08:43 PM   #57
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Every one is free to spend their money the way they see fit. Pure nitrogen for the tires or designer bottled water...just do what ever flips your fritter.

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Old 07-12-2010, 09:00 PM   #58
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Just wondering. Have any of the naysayers on this thread ever tried Nitrogen? Has any operator that used Nitrogen decided it was a bad idea?
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Old 07-20-2010, 10:13 AM   #59
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Nope_ never even thought about trying it, as I can't seem to change the laws of physics.
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...... I can't seem to change the laws of physics.
That's because you're not really trying Ray!

Mr.Scott managed to do so almost every week!

"Cap'n, I canna change the laws of physics!"
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Cool Value of Nitrogen

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Just wondering. Have any of the naysayers on this thread ever tried Nitrogen? Has any operator that used Nitrogen decided it was a bad idea?
Well I have run N2 in my race car but I was also using a pressure gauge that read to 0.1 psi and setting each tire differently. I also used a $300 Temperature probe to get internal tire structure temperature and was adjusting alignment every week.

Is using N2 a bad thing? Absolutely not as far as I am concerend.
Is it necessary for day to day street usage? Never seen any date indicating it is necessary.
Is it worth the expense? Well is a Rolex really give more meaningful time of day than a $19.95 Wally World digital? Depends on the health of your IRA.
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My reason for thinking about Nitrogen is to keep the pressure from building. My front tires are at 112#. I monitor the tires and they reach 128+# in hot weather. I feel this makes the front of the coach ride more firm than at 112#. When it becomes necessary to replace the tires I will consider going to a larger tire. I have not done any research on this as that is maybe 4 years out. I assume that increasing tire size would require calibration of the speedometer, ride height and maybe alignment. That is too far off to worry but I would like to soften the ride now.
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If your coach is properly weight and items stored to balance load, than using the tire mfg's pressure tables for weight you should not have a problem.
My 22.5 tires will increase by 15#'s on a trip never had a tire problem.
The front end ride is not hard.
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I haven't read all the replies so maybe I'm echoing someone-- but consider this:

The reason air pressure goes up is because of heat. The reason for the heat is your tires naturally get hot as they roll and flex. As your tires get hot, the rubber gets softer. As the rubber gets softer, it will support less weight. Supporting less weight means more sidewall flex. More sidewall flex means the tire will generate more heat...

If you have plain old air in the tires, the extra air pressure from the heat helps compensate for the tire's softness. For that reason only, I see no need to run nitrogen in my tires...
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I haven't read all the replies so maybe I'm echoing someone-- but consider this:

The reason air pressure goes up is because of heat. The reason for the heat is your tires naturally get hot as they roll and flex. As your tires get hot, the rubber gets softer. As the rubber gets softer, it will support less weight. Supporting less weight means more sidewall flex. More sidewall flex means the tire will generate more heat...

If you have plain old air in the tires, the extra air pressure from the heat helps compensate for the tire's softness. For that reason only, I see no need to run nitrogen in my tires...
I think that makes a lot of sense, Joe
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If you ignore all of the thermodynamics courses I took

Nitrogen will likely make your teeth whiter, you hair thicker, help you lose weight, and increase the gains in your portfolio

OK there is no proof for any of that, but where is the proof for any of the other claims for nitrogen
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I have pretty much pure Nitrogen in my fronts and the go from 130lbs to 148lbs when hot and running.
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Nitrogen will not change tire pressure. Nitrogen will be slightly less reactive with the rubber; however, not enough to affect tire life. All in all nitrogen is not worth any extra expense.

I was a chemist in the oil and gas industry.

If you spend any money on nitrogen, I would like to talk to you about a magic bracelet that helps you feel better and gives you better balance.

Happy trails,

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Nitrogen will not change tire pressure. Nitrogen will be slightly less reactive with the rubber; however, not enough to affect tire life. All in all nitrogen is not worth any extra expense.

I was a chemist in the oil and gas industry.

If you spend any money on nitrogen, I would like to talk to you about a magic bracelet that helps you feel better and gives you better balance.

Happy trails,

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I was recently shopping for a new toad and the Malibu I bargained for had a dealer added feature of nitrogen filled tires -- for an additional 100 bucks. Naturally, that didn't fly.

I suggest that everyone go out and have their tires filled with N2. Think of the tremendous boost that will give the economy and the new jobs created, probably more than the Cash for Clunkers deal.

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