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Old 07-28-2005, 06:28 AM   #1
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">In a previous thread, originally posted in the Canadian Forum and once cross-referenced here in the General Discussion Forum, RV Roamer stated the following:

It is tough for the owner of an existing park to compete for "no frills" business. They have already spent the money to build their expensive infrastructure (dump station, office/store, power grid, etc.), so adding a no-hook-up area doesn't relieve them of the big cost burden. They would still have to charge a substantial fee, maybe only $5 less than a water & electric site. That's not enough to be attractive, so most people would pay the extra anyway.

And there are two competing pressures: many Rvers are demanding full hook-up 50A sites while others have gone the no-frills route. And the no-frills choice is a popular one in an "enroute" place like Prince George, a small city where people are mostly just passing through on their way to other BC destinations or to Alaska via The Cassiar Highway.

But figuring out how to meet the customer's needs is part of doing business, so Mr McAfee is going to have to learn how to cope. I've stayed in his park and it is a nice enough place, but it is neither upscale enough for the big rig touring crowd nor cheap enough for the no-frills crowd. On the other hand, I think we paid only about $22 Canadian for a full hook-up site there in 2002, so it was already very reasonable. That was only about $15 US at the time.

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</div></BLOCKQUOTE>Gary, Your comparison is objective and well articulated. I agree that there is an "expensive infrastructure" which is part of a campground's capital investment. On the other hand, to put in a low-cost, no frills lot, would not put any additional burden on that existing infrastructure with the exception of a couple of extra showers and a couple of extra flushes.

In the South, I saw many campgrounds which are easily accessible to the Interstate highway. I think that we lack these easily accessible campgrounds in the North, which bears upon this issue. That being said, what facilities are easily accessible to RVing travellers on the Interstate Highways in the Northern States and Canada? Truckstops and Retail stores/plazas/malls. So it stands to reason that in areas where real estate prices are high, you readily find year-round, 24-7, chain businesses. And where real estate prices are low, you find mom/pop campgrounds.

On a closing note, since you stayed in Mr. McAfee's park, is he open 365 days a year? Is his office open to accept customers 24-7? These are points to ponder because I'm sure that I'm not alone....I arrived at a campground after the office closed and there were no after-hours instructions. On another occasion, I arrived at a campground to find that they closed a week early for the Winter due to slow business. With fuel pushing $3.00/gallon, who wants to drive off their route just to find a closed campground?

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Old 07-28-2005, 06:28 AM   #2
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In a previous thread, originally posted in the Canadian Forum and once cross-referenced here in the General Discussion Forum, RV Roamer stated the following:

It is tough for the owner of an existing park to compete for "no frills" business. They have already spent the money to build their expensive infrastructure (dump station, office/store, power grid, etc.), so adding a no-hook-up area doesn't relieve them of the big cost burden. They would still have to charge a substantial fee, maybe only $5 less than a water & electric site. That's not enough to be attractive, so most people would pay the extra anyway.

And there are two competing pressures: many Rvers are demanding full hook-up 50A sites while others have gone the no-frills route. And the no-frills choice is a popular one in an "enroute" place like Prince George, a small city where people are mostly just passing through on their way to other BC destinations or to Alaska via The Cassiar Highway.

But figuring out how to meet the customer's needs is part of doing business, so Mr McAfee is going to have to learn how to cope. I've stayed in his park and it is a nice enough place, but it is neither upscale enough for the big rig touring crowd nor cheap enough for the no-frills crowd. On the other hand, I think we paid only about $22 Canadian for a full hook-up site there in 2002, so it was already very reasonable. That was only about $15 US at the time.

Gary Brinck
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2003 Chevy Tracker ZR2 4WD
Homebase in the Ocala Nat'l Forest near Ocala, FL
Gary, Your comparison is objective and well articulated. I agree that there is an "expensive infrastructure" which is part of a campground's capital investment. On the other hand, to put in a low-cost, no frills lot, would not put any additional burden on that existing infrastructure with the exception of a couple of extra showers and a couple of extra flushes.

In the South, I saw many campgrounds which are easily accessible to the Interstate highway. I think that we lack these easily accessible campgrounds in the North, which bears upon this issue. That being said, what facilities are easily accessible to RVing travellers on the Interstate Highways in the Northern States and Canada? Truckstops and Retail stores/plazas/malls. So it stands to reason that in areas where real estate prices are high, you readily find year-round, 24-7, chain businesses. And where real estate prices are low, you find mom/pop campgrounds.

On a closing note, since you stayed in Mr. McAfee's park, is he open 365 days a year? Is his office open to accept customers 24-7? These are points to ponder because I'm sure that I'm not alone....I arrived at a campground after the office closed and there were no after-hours instructions. On another occasion, I arrived at a campground to find that they closed a week early for the Winter due to slow business. With fuel pushing $3.00/gallon, who wants to drive off their route just to find a closed campground?

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