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Old 03-11-2010, 09:31 PM   #15
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Thanks All

Thanks for all the feedback. It's wonderful what we learn here on iRV2. I have made it all the way from Hattiesburg MS to Denton TX and only about 1/8 of a tank left. The only difference I seem to have noticed is that the engine ran a little stronger and smoother... Would say that's just my imagination but since I was expecting and looking for just the opposite I kind of doubt it. Probably did run better in my engine.
I'll run tomorrow until I'm sure I have to fill up and then stop and put in the ULSD required and hopefully that will be the end of this learning episode. I have saved the receipt and of course I'll print out this forum thread and file it along with my notes/names/phone numbers of folks at Fleetwood, Freightliner, and Cummins I spoke with yesterday just in case I ever need to prove it was inadvertent.
Have a great weekend all.
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Old 03-12-2010, 12:06 PM   #16
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Thanks for all the feedback. It's wonderful what we learn here on iRV2. I have made it all the way from Hattiesburg MS to Denton TX and only about 1/8 of a tank left. The only difference I seem to have noticed is that the engine ran a little stronger and smoother... Would say that's just my imagination but since I was expecting and looking for just the opposite I kind of doubt it. Probably did run better in my engine.
I'll run tomorrow until I'm sure I have to fill up and then stop and put in the ULSD required and hopefully that will be the end of this learning episode. I have saved the receipt and of course I'll print out this forum thread and file it along with my notes/names/phone numbers of folks at Fleetwood, Freightliner, and Cummins I spoke with yesterday just in case I ever need to prove it was inadvertent.
Have a great weekend all.
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I hate to rain on your parade, but the tax man won't care if you did it inadvertently or not. I've heard that some repair shops will report you if they see the "red dye" while working on your rig. I don't know if it's true or not, but I've been told by a mechanic that they get a "reward" for turning you in...Just something to think about.
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To ease your mind send me the tax money
I'll make sure it gets to the proper location


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Charles and martha.... remind me not to break down in your neck of the woods..... sounds like a really friendly place
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I hate to rain on your parade, but the tax man won't care if you did it inadvertently or not. I've heard that some repair shops will report you if they see the "red dye" while working on your rig. I don't know if it's true or not, but I've been told by a mechanic that they get a "reward" for turning you in...Just something to think about.
I doubt that the tax man could enforce a 10,000 dollar fine over 59 gallons put in by accident. He might be able to collect the tax and that's fine.
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Well, if you run it out like I do it was gone that afternoon anyway. Change the filter and go. The only reason anyone would ever check you would be if you told, oh yea you did, or if you were a farmer with your own tanks.

Run it out. Might be more concern about your generator that the Cummins.

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I doubt that the tax man could enforce a 10,000 dollar fine over 59 gallons put in by accident. He might be able to collect the tax and that's fine.
It won't be the tax that gets your attention..It'll be the fine! They won't care if it's an accident or not...Unless you happen to the head of some committee in Congress!!!
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Ed, being a Texan you should know this but I'll tell you a little story. Texas Dept of Public Safety weights and measurement division do periodic checks of trucks parked at cattle auctions. When the auctioneer makes an announcement that weight and measurement troopers are in the parking lot, the auction stops and everybody gets to their truck and leaves quickly. I wont say all but a large majority use the dyed diesel exclusively. I buy off road for farm use and my distributor supplies the low sulphur because its all he can get. If you have a older diesel you need to use an additive to make up for the low sulphur content.
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It won't be the tax that gets your attention..It'll be the fine! They won't care if it's an accident or not...Unless you happen to the head of some committee in Congress!!!

CB... I understand everything you are saying.. However I refuse to believe we live in the country you describe. We are a country of laws, and even though all of those laws don't make sense, they are usually well intended. And the $10,000 penalties are not put there to just be mean and raise revenue for the feds, they are in place as a deterant to keep people from using the cheaper/untaxed diesel on the road. The IRS does cross lines sometimes and sometimes they get away with it and sometimes they don't. I have in fact been part of a law suit where we counter sued the IRS and we won. In our case, the IRS even agreed to pay legal fees to just make the case go away. I'm sure some agents or officials of various government departments would want to go after me for this and impose the fines... I just am convinced that with our nation of laws and courts, they would not be able to get away with it. And if they are looking for someone to sue they could sue the dumb people at the gas station that didn't bother to tell me that died diesel was illegal to use in that big brown and black 41 foot bus sitting right outside their window when I gave them my credit card and said "i'm gonna fill up on pump 11"
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And if they are looking for someone to sue they could sue the dumb people at the gas station that didn't bother to tell me that dyed diesel was illegal to use in that big brown and black 41 foot bus sitting right outside their window when I gave them my credit card and said "I'm gonna fill up on pump 11"
Chances are the person at the counter hasn't a clue what "Dyed Diesel" or Off Road Diesel" is or means. Hell, they can't even give you your correct change back until the computer cash register tells them how much to give you! What would they do if the dang thing had a virus and started giving you back double what you were really owed? Now I would like to see that happen some day.

Bottom line, it was an honest mistake and you won't be serving time at the local lockup or paying anybody a huge fine. Lesson learned, just pay more attention to what pump you are using making sure you don't blow up you or someone else in the process.

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Chances are the person at the counter hasn't a clue what "Dyed Diesel" or Off Road Diesel" is or means. Hell, they can't even give you your correct change back until the computer cash register tells them how much to give you! What would they do if the dang thing had a virus and started giving you back double what you were really owed? Now I would like to see that happen some day.

Bottom line, it was an honest mistake and you won't be serving time at the local lockup or paying anybody a huge fine. Lesson learned, just pay more attention to what pump you are using making sure you don't blow up you or someone else in the process.

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Finally someone who agrees with me.... Thank you Dr.Film
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