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Old 09-20-2011, 09:36 AM   #71
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I guess my question is: if I don't feel like gambling, is there anything else to spend money on at Casinos, just so I wouldn't be simply "freeloading"?

We don't gamble either, but every casino has a reasonably priced buffet, or other kind of restaurant- just grab some dinner there to alleviate your concerns.

Most also have gift shops- how about an overpriced T shirt?
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Thanks for the rundown, Phil!
Sounds like a fun trip- maybe except for whatever led to the repairs stop

About Omak- I used to overnight at the Walmart when I was in that area, but then I discovered Leader Lake.
Do you know that campground?
It's a few miles west of Okanagon on Hwy 20- a DNR campground, so it's free!
You do need the Discover pass now- a bargain at $30.00 a year, I think.
Anyway, Leader Lake is beautiful- no amenities except table, fire rings, and clean newer privies.
And quite a bit quieter than Walmart, it being right on Hwy. 97 and all.
Just thought I'd pass that along...

And now another question for you- about Casinos.
I've never been inside one- no special reason or objections or anything like that- just not something I've ever done.
I've heard about their RV hospitality, but I've been a little reluctant to try it out.
I feel O.K. about overnighting at Walmart because I spend enough money there- seems like a fair transaction.
I guess my question is: if I don't feel like gambling, is there anything else to spend money on at Casinos, just so I wouldn't be simply "freeloading"?

Thanks!

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Looks like Senior Chief beat me to it with the buffet and gift shop. They also usually have free entertainment, bands, magicians, etc., as well as snack bars and more formal dining areas. Most, but not all casinos will allow you to stay overnight. One notable exception for us, on this side of the mountains, is The Skagit up north near Bellingham. The answer is NO! Too bad, too, because it's one of our favorites and we used to stay in their hotel before we had the RV.

I'll do a little research on Leader Lake. We did not know about that and it sounds delightful. We could use a change of scenery for sure! Usually when we are in Omak, it's just a matter of spend the night then go visit my mother-in-law, then back to Wal-Mart for the night then back to town, etc. We don't use a toad, so it's difficult to get out and see other areas around Omak. But, my wife is from there and we have been there and around there many times, so it's no big deal. OH, I forgot, mom has a car she almost never drives. We could park at Leader Lake and use the car to get around! Thanks for the heads up, that sounds really good!!
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I guess my question is: if I don't feel like gambling, is there anything else to spend money on at Casinos, just so I wouldn't be simply "freeloading"?

We don't gamble either, but every casino has a reasonably priced buffet, or other kind of restaurant- just grab some dinner there to alleviate your concerns.

Most also have gift shops- how about an overpriced T shirt?
Hi, Chief

Tacky souvenirs!
My favorite...
I can alleviate my Female Catholic Guilt and add to my Useless Knickknack collection at the same time

Thanks!

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I'll do a little research on Leader Lake. We did not know about that and it sounds delightful. We could use a change of scenery for sure! Usually when we are in Omak, it's just a matter of spend the night then go visit my mother-in-law, then back to Wal-Mart for the night then back to town, etc. We don't use a toad, so it's difficult to get out and see other areas around Omak. But, my wife is from there and we have been there and around there many times, so it's no big deal. OH, I forgot, mom has a car she almost never drives. We could park at Leader Lake and use the car to get around! Thanks for the heads up, that sounds really good!!
Hi, Phil

The next time you visit your Mother-In-Law, think about taking her (and her CAR ) for a drive out to Leader Lake!
I have it marked in my atlas as being at milepost 224 on Hwy. 20. It can't be more than 10 miles from Okanagon, if that far. There is a sign for the lake on 20, and it's only about a half mile off the highway once you make the turn.
There's a nice day use area on the east side of the lake, with tables, privy, and a fishing platform. It's a pretty spot for a picnic, and you could check out the campground while you're at it.

Here are some pics...
The guy fishing is on the platform directly across from the main campground- see the motor home across the water?
Plenty of room!
There are actually two camping areas, which I didn't realize the first time I was there.
When you get to the lake, you'll cross a dam and immediately to the right there are some nice spots on the hill- flat enough etc., but not directly on the lakeshore.
But if you go straight ahead after the dam, you'll be on a (narrow, but passable) asphalt road that travels the length of the lake to the lakeside spots pictured.
There are about ten sites down there, and ten or so more at the hillside camp. All are nice and roomy although some are flatter than others.

I think it's open all year, and best of all, there's no charge!

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Hi, Phil

The next time you visit your Mother-In-Law, think about taking her (and her CAR ) for a drive out to Leader Lake!
I have it marked in my atlas as being at milepost 224 on Hwy. 20. It can't be more than 10 miles from Okanagon, if that far. There is a sign for the lake on 20, and it's only about a half mile off the highway once you make the turn.
There's a nice day use area on the east side of the lake, with tables, privy, and a fishing platform. It's a pretty spot for a picnic, and you could check out the campground while you're at it.

Here are some pics...
The guy fishing is on the platform directly across from the main campground- see the motor home across the water?
Plenty of room!
There are actually two camping areas, which I didn't realize the first time I was there.
When you get to the lake, you'll cross a dam and immediately to the right there are some nice spots on the hill- flat enough etc., but not directly on the lakeshore.
But if you go straight ahead after the dam, you'll be on a (narrow, but passable) asphalt road that travels the length of the lake to the lakeside spots pictured.
There are about ten sites down there, and ten or so more at the hillside camp. All are nice and roomy although some are flatter than others.

I think it's open all year, and best of all, there's no charge!

Francesca
Wow, beautiful pictures and great description, Francesca! Thanks for the write up and encouragement. It does look like a wonderful place, though unlike Wal-Mart, they probably don't have rotisserie chicken available? Seriously, we will give it a try next time we are over, which will probably be next month. You don't think there will be any problem getting my 38' MH in there and turned around as necessary, do you?
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You're right, Phil- no rotisserie chicken...unless you cook it yourself!

Per your rig fit-
My whole tug/tow shootin' match is only 28 ft. plus change, and "articulated" in the middle...
My perspective is sort of affected by that!

That motorhome in the pic was about your size I think.
Both the upper and lower campgrounds are loops- the lower (by lake) is roomier.
I don't think you'd have any problem getting around that loop.
Checking it out by Mom-in-law's car first might be the best idea, though.

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You're right, Phil- no rotisserie chicken...unless you cook it yourself!

Per your rig fit-
My whole tug/tow shootin' match is only 28 ft. plus change, and "articulated" in the middle...
My perspective is sort of affected by that!

That motorhome in the pic was about your size I think.
Both the upper and lower campgrounds are loops- the lower (by lake) is roomier.
I don't think you'd have any problem getting around that loop.
Checking it out by Mom-in-law's car first might be the best idea, though.

Francesca
Good advice, again, Francesca, "Mom-in-law's car" to check it out, first. But, with the loops, it seems I shouldn't have any trouble navigating. Just have to watch out for low branches, maybe.

Thanks again, looking forward to our next trip over!
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Hi, Phil

The next time you visit your Mother-In-Law, think about taking her (and her CAR ) for a drive out to Leader Lake!
I have it marked in my atlas as being at milepost 224 on Hwy. 20. It can't be more than 10 miles from Okanagon, if that far. There is a sign for the lake on 20, and it's only about a half mile off the highway once you make the turn.
There's a nice day use area on the east side of the lake, with tables, privy, and a fishing platform. It's a pretty spot for a picnic, and you could check out the campground while you're at it.

Here are some pics...
The guy fishing is on the platform directly across from the main campground- see the motor home across the water?
Plenty of room!
There are actually two camping areas, which I didn't realize the first time I was there.
When you get to the lake, you'll cross a dam and immediately to the right there are some nice spots on the hill- flat enough etc., but not directly on the lakeshore.
But if you go straight ahead after the dam, you'll be on a (narrow, but passable) asphalt road that travels the length of the lake to the lakeside spots pictured.
There are about ten sites down there, and ten or so more at the hillside camp. All are nice and roomy although some are flatter than others.

I think it's open all year, and best of all, there's no charge!

Francesca
Goes to show ya that there ARE great free places to park, FREE of asphalt, traffic noise, and neon lights!
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Goes to show ya that there ARE great free places to park, FREE of asphalt, traffic noise, and neon lights!
That's true, Gary!

And I know lots more in Washington State...
I use Walmart/rest stops etc. fairly often when I'm traveling from place to place, but only as stopovers.
I'm in the strange position of having a home that's so quiet that it isn't easy to find places to camp where the ambient noise levels are as low as I'm used to.
That pretty much lets out regular on-the-beaten-path campgrounds.
But if you don't care about utilities and know where and how to look, there are still lots of choices in my beautiful State!

And yours, too, come to think of it.
I'm an Oregonian by birth and still camp there now and then...

Lucky us, am I right?

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Found a GEM!
Lewistown, MT. Halfway between Billings and Great Falls

Kiwani's FREE Campground.

About 10 spaces, Flat, Picnic tables, potable water bathrooms, (didn't look for a dump station) clean and QUIET! (untill 9am as its right next to the local airport)

ROLLED IN AT 10 PM, OUT AT 8.
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Here's a HOT tip that DanL just posted in another thread-
California State Parks is beginning to offer out-by-9a.m. parking at some of the Day Use areas!
I think you have to fork over the day use fee, but it beats the heck out of the regular overnight rates...

List of Parks with "Enroute" parking at Enroute Campsites

And day use fees listed at http://www.parks.ca.gov/pages/737/fi..._day%20use.pdf

Thanks, DanL!

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Maybe it's time to breathe some life back into this thread! I love the NFS campgrounds, and luckily AZ has a lot of them. Up on the Mogollon Rim (pronounced mo-go-yawn) there are many places to park for free in the Natl Forest at an altitude of >7000'. So, during July and August when temps are 110+ where I live, you can drive 110 miles and be in gorgeous country with no real need for an AC. Cool days and chilly nights, no excessive breezes, a great place to spend some time!

I have my rig set up with a large solar panel which helps make us pretty independent of the grid, though will run the generator based on how much TV we watch on the satellite. Last year we had a "camp horse" that was grazing in the camping area. He was a young gelding that acted kind of like a teenager, very inquisitive and getting into everything. If I left the chairs and folding table sitting outside on the mat, I would wake up when he grabbed the mat and pulled it up and out, sending the chairs and table flying. I'd chase him off, but he'd always come back looking for some attention. I was raised with horses so know the dangers associated with them, but also how to handle them safely.

We spent 4 days at that spot last year, and while we were gone that trip for 5 weeks, we enjoyed that stay with the horse more than any other place we stayed at. That included time spent up around Dolores/Durango, CO. The cost was free, but you can't rent a space in a campground that is as enjoyable!
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In the early nineties we managed a wrecker service for a while. Sometimes when an RVer would break down (or be involved in an accident), the tow vehicle would need to go in one direction to a repair shop and the RV would need to go in another direction to a campground. So I often used my truck to move the RV while we dispatched a wrecker for the tow vehicle. I eventually mounted a revolving red emergency light on the dash of my truck to keep traffic off me while I got hooked up. After a while, I kind of forgot that the dash light was even there.

A few years later after we left the wrecker service and became full-timers, we stopped in a campground for an over night stay. After looking at the campground more closely, it didn't look quite as nice up close as it had from the highway. But since we had already pulled in, we decided to spend the night anyway.

As I was coming out of the office after settling up for the night, I noticed a couple of young guys across the lot looking at my rig and talking among themselves. I stopped and looked at my rig to see if I could figure out what they were so interested in. Suddenly, it dawned on me that they were trying to decide what were the implications of that emergency light on the dash. Needless to say, that light became a permanent fixture on my dash for as long as we owned the 5er. I never turned it on, but it kept people guessing.
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My choices

My choices are Flying J ( I don't mind the truck noise and enjoy the store and restaurants), Casinos I like that some have hook-ups and security and a restaurant, Walmart is lower on my list, I like that I can stay over night for free at some and resupply at the same time. The bottom of the list is rest areas and pullouts and only for a quick nap and I hardly ever leave the rig unless no one is around, I am very cautious and use situational awareness where ever I am- when in doubt I move out !

All of the above I use for overnight stops only usually just a few hours to rest and eat a meal.
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