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Old 01-10-2015, 09:50 AM   #15
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I'm sure the seller would get some sort of inspection certificate. Word-of-mouth doesn't carry any weight anymore, like it used to.
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Is this where you are doing yours Rodger? 3Howtobecome
Looks like a great place to learn........Are you doing this online? or is it a "Hand's on class"?......Might be a great thing for folks to do as to save on repair/troubleshooting bills........just for their own equipment.
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As to the trust issue. I don't feel that is of concern if the inspector was affiliated with the national organization I'm training with. There are pictures taken as well for the detailed report. What I'm saying is that it seems like a transparent process with access to the inspector. Also, You don't just get a summary, but a detailed list of items inspected and the inspector's decision about each item.

So, I don't personally share that concern.

The issue is really on the buyer's head as always. There seems to be a range among buyers starting from minimal to no due diligence, all the way to extensive due diligence. I'm the kind of buyer than would take the list and pictures, and go through the rig to understand how the inspector arrived at each of his conclusions. So, I have a normal trust and verify process anyway, regardless, without concern about bias. And I would like go even deeper.
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Hello Palehorse89, yes, rvtechnician.com

I'm in the on-line training. Makes it local at minimal cost, and I'm a good self learner and do a lot of repair work at home and on the car, so it works for me. However, eventually I may take the full hands-one course, but a bit unwieldy for me at the moment, so one does what one can, and I hope to help part time at a local rv dealership this spring if possible. Will go talk to them when I get the certification.

There are other training opportunities/organizations, but this ones hands-on seemed to be the most extensive of the choices, the on-line materials have been excellent and they also have specialist designations to add on as well.

I had to pass an rv general knowledge exam to enter the training, either on-line or hands on. Not hard as they offer free on-line training for the Candidate exam. Budget half a day or less to study the materials and take the exam.

Their stats on the available techs out there suggests why there is such bad waiting times to get help from the dealers and to get the repairs completed. 10 million rvs plus vs 10,000 plus available technicians. Saw some stats of potential 20 million more newbies.

Am already buying things like a Fluke clamp meter and Fluke multimeter, etc.

But again, this is primarily a self-help and fellow rvers help thing, not a career for me. I'm a semi-retired old fart after all.

I concluded, after spending most of 2014 studying this rv thing, that it's a good idea to not only have access to the forum, but to understand some of the whys of how this complex machine works, how to check the various systems on my own, and have some sense I can help myself sometimes when the darn thing breaks down or has blips in things working...which seems to be regularly at best.

Note: already learning some trouble shooting stuff as well.

Electrical issues are the most common rv problem.
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I should also mention that after I get the online certification, there is a national local hands-on rv technicians training coming up in a couple of months, that would cost me quite a bit less and without having to travel to Florida and rent an apart for several months. So, I'm probably gonna do it as it is just ahead of the spring season, so I'm double solid as the kids would say.

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Note: they are tied in with the inspectors training that I'm also working on as I mentioned before.

Altogether, this should make the used rv buying experience a lot of fun for me and a headache for the seller...just joking.

My net outlay to do these three programs plus the elect specialty, based on my estimate, will be about $3,500 including tools I don't already have around the house and excluding the Fluke electrical meters (2 for about $350 total) I have already purchased. Should be of great value to me.

Add another $10,000 if I go back to Florida: for that you get the rv tech cert, plus all the 5 specialties, which results in a master tech cert with 5 years of experience.
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I went through the technical materials and the tests for inspector. I got my certification a couple of weeks ago and set up a company last week. I'm trying to decide between going to Fla. with the RV and taking the AIT course or seeing what business I can drum up with RV dealers and warranty companies on my own. RVInspections.com has a non-compete clause and they take 1/2 the fee. What you get from them is exposure.

I'd be interested to hear other opinions on this. I'll be setting up a web site next week.
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The problem is identifying the actual market you will be serving and the demand for the service you are providing to determine if the business you are starting is feasible.
You can't rely on general stats for this or encouragement during training. Whether you make it or not has no effect on them.

Mostly new business people don't do this at all and the business often doesn't produce enough to make it worth while and the cash flow just isn't there soon enough if at all, so the entrepreneur sort of runs out of cash gas quite soon.

I doubt that good stats are available on what the other inspectors are doing, how many have succeeded or failed, how well they are doing and where the successful ones are located...your competition.

My assumption is that the organization makes good enough money from the training and the pull from the inspector fees, and they don't really worry about anything much beyond that except that if you do an inspection you follow their rules and standards and pay them their fee. A little bit off a lot of inspectors adds up.

Well, that is how I see it.

I'm not focusing on building a business, have done enough of that for my other service business, so wish you best of luck.

Bottom line for me is doing a good job at identifying and confirming I have a good used motorhome I'm gonna invest in with respect to the inspector's training. If I do help dealers doing "their" dealer type inspection and some tech work part time, unrelated to the RV Inspector thing, that is good enough for me and I feel I will be helping out the dealer and the rv buyer as a sort of nice old fart to have around routine.

The best business is the training school business I'm guessing.
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Not to discourage you, really I don't know, but usually the easier it is to get into something, the harder it is to make the business go, and this is pretty easy to get into.

Also, having been surfing this and another forum for the past year, I'm not convinced enough buyers know about or think about RV Inspectors. Either the dealers take care of it or it is not often used with respect to private buyers...as of 2014. That is based on my poor research.
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You mean I need to do more than get a domain name, set up a web site and a Facebook page?

I hear ya on buyers not doing inspections. I think if more people thought that buying an RV was like buying a home and not a car, they would understand the issues involved. Like you, I have surfed various forums for a while and am amazed that people plunk down tens and even hundreds of thousands or dollars for a motorhome or trailer, then go onto a public forum for post-purchase advise.

I think the warranty companies will be the biggest part of the market. My brother does this for several extended auto warranty companies on Long Island and he's stays pretty busy. I don't need to make a living from this.
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I think what drives the mh buying process is the availability of loans. When you have the cash to purchase and are going to write a check for cash for say $200,000 it would put a different spin to it...more personal, more present in the moment.
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I think what drives the mh buying process is the availability of loans. When you have the cash to purchase and are going to write a check for cash for say $200,000 it would put a different spin to it...more personal, more present in the moment.
Kash use to be "King" Rodger, with interest rates were they are at still, LOW......Today's financing is strictly based on one's credit rating.....
With the market doing what it has been doing, and the money made in it sense 2009....... interest rates low........loans are attractive today.......Over a years period.......10-30+ % in the market(depending on your choices)......2-5% on a loan..... Money ahead to finance and leave your investments make you money.
With interest rates so low.........a dealer does not care to much about cash deals these days.........credit score is good......roll Instant credit replaced cash.
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Hi palehorse89,
It is true what you are saying, but to me the dealer/seller is not what I was speculating about. I believe if it is a function of 1) making, let's say for purposes of the discussion, a cash down of $35,000 and a monthly payment of, lets say $1,000 a month vs 2) writing a check for $250,000 and tomorrow looking at a bank account that went from $255,000 down to $5,000...at least for me, I'm gonna really feel that check signature much more deeper than the signing of the loan.

I mean really feel it, almost as if I handed them a big bag full of cash and expected to be able to replace the cash in my bank account easily.
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With a loan, you can always default...yeah, and lose your credit. As to the check, the money is really gone and guess what the moment I drive that rv off the lot, it is worth way less than what I just paid for it and it is going down fast in value, like a rock.
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Hi palehorse89,
It is true what you are saying, but to me the dealer/seller is not what I was speculating about. I believe if it is a function of 1) making, let's say for purposes of the discussion, a cash down of $35,000 and a monthly payment of, lets say $1,000 a month vs 2) writing a check for $250,000 and tomorrow looking at a bank account that went from $255,000 down to $5,000...at least for me, I'm gonna really feel that check signature much more deeper than the signing of the loan.

I mean really feel it, almost as if I handed them a big bag full of cash and expected to be able to replace the cash in my bank account easily.
Another reason Rodger to finance a portion of this venture........I would not want to be left with 5k in the bank after paying cash for a RV..........forget about how it "Feels" and do what is financially correct for your position in life.........when buying, you don't want to just sit and look at it, cause you can't fuel/maintain it Sometimes using someone's else's money is a wise financial decision, especially when your money is making more than their's...... and the "Feeling" that you have the money to back your venture up.........and rid yourself of it at anytime of your choosing But , like always ........this is your choice......just offering a different perspective for you to think about
Have you got your sights on one yet?
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