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Old 12-01-2008, 06:57 PM   #85
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I was in NC about a month ago and I actually thought; Why is everyone in such a hurry. In general we do have a much slower pace and laid back lifestyle in AZ.
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Old 12-01-2008, 07:59 PM   #86
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Hi Ho: We recently spent 1 1/2 years in Germany (Jena in the eastern part) and had to get used to a few differences in driving. As most of you probably know, there is no speed limit on most parts of the Autobahn. There are usually three lanes, with the slowest on the right, etc.

However, they use speed cameras in the cities and some places on the highway where speed limits are posted. It is really a challenge to reduce speed from over 100 mph to maybe 50 mph when it is posted. The cameras are moved on a regular basis, but the local radio stations usually tell where they are with the news and traffic reports.

If you are more than about 5 mph over, you get "blizt" and a ticket comes with your picture etc. It really isn't a big deal (maybe $15) unless you are more than about 20 mph over the limit. Then the fine is appreciable and you stand to lose your license for some time.

While it is a bit scary at first, I miss traveling at 110 mph on the Autobahn now. It seems sometimes like we are taking forever to get there. However, when traveling in the motorhome I usually go about 60 mph just because it is less stressfull and "Hey, we are on vacation".

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Old 12-01-2008, 08:07 PM   #87
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I wonder how a car handles during a front tire blow out at 110 miles per hour
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:02 PM   #88
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by MtManLee:
Having worked in law enforcement, I get a ticket its my fault. Thank the system for putting officers out there to slow me down. /QUOTE]

This is the BIGGEST CROCK I've ever heard..How many times do LEO write "Brother Officers"? I run with a bunch of LEO's and I've been in the car with them running over the limit and if they get pulled they just "flash and dash". That little badge is one heck of "a get out of jail free card." Most speed traps are just ways for a community to make money plain and simple, just be honest about it.
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Old 12-01-2008, 09:02 PM   #89
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NO BLOW-OUTS over there on the AUTOBAHN....
Every little VW goes way over 100 MPH. You get used to this relaxing speed!!!!!!
I just got back today from a Autobahn trip over there! You get used to that speed... NO PASSING on the RIGHT.
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Old 12-02-2008, 04:35 AM   #90
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For safeties sake....for money....people drive too fast....I never speed.....all opinions plain and simple. Thank you Red T for starting this thread and getting the juices flowing! I just love this forum.

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Old 12-03-2008, 04:16 AM   #91
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First, we were part of the 15-20 mph over the limit, but now that we are retired we want to see what we missed at those speeds and WOW it's great to see things at 59-62 mph.
We have traveled as far west as middle of Texas and far north to Chicago. There are a lot of speeding RV's, cars and trucks here on the east coast of the country, but as I read this thread as we leave FL for AZ on Saturday we may be in for a surprise.
The big questions are:
Are we going to create a traffic jam with our speed 59/62 mph? Not a problem so far.
Is some one going to run into the toad that has a "CAR IN TOW" sign? People cann't see the BIG RED LETTERS.
We have driven in the Southern Nevada/Northern AZ area in cars and shared the road with speeding vehicles by using the shoulder, is this still the practice?
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I believe using the shoulder of the road for anything but emergency purposes is illegal.
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In Texas, it's customary for slower vehicles to move to the shoulder to allow following vehicles to pass on 2 lane roads. Most of our roads have wide shoulders to allow this practice.

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Old 12-03-2008, 06:26 AM   #94
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If you do some searching on the web, you will find a service providing fee-based downloads of POI files giving the coordinates for all fixed red light and speed cameras in the United States. The files can be transferred to Garmin and other GPS systems that accept POI files. The files include all cameras on city streets and freeways.

When I am about 10 seconds or so from a red light or speed camera my GPS sounds an alarm.

The reason Arizona has so many freeway-based speed cameras (if you search the web you will find news accounts of this) is Gov. Janet Napalitano (D-AZ) was facing an enormous budget shortfall for 2009. She ordered the cameras be placed through the state to generate revenue. The state legislature is GOP dominated and there was no way she was going to them to raise taxes - this was a quick fix to go around the legislature to raise state revenue.

This is the same Napalitano named this week by Pres-elect Obama to head the nation's Homeland Security. Editorial comment: Even with access to extensive resources (National Guard etc) she did NOTHING to control illegal immigration from Mexico across the Arizona border. Heaven help us all!
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">In Texas, it's customary for slower vehicles to move to the shoulder to allow following vehicles to pass on 2 lane roads. Most of our roads have wide shoulders to allow this practice. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's interesting the first time you encounter it.

The car that pulls onto the shoulder doesn't necessarily slow down but continues at their speed as you go by.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Wicked Whippets:
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This is the same Napalitano named this week by Pres-elect Obama to head the nation's Homeland Security. Editorial comment: Even with access to extensive resources (National Guard etc) she did NOTHING to control illegal immigration from Mexico across the Arizona border. Heaven help us all! </div></BLOCKQUOTE>


A comment just to be "fair and balanced" . . . given that border security is a Federal responsibility, perhaps Ms. Napalitano will provide some proper action to control our borders when she officially becomes a Federal employee. Sure hope so!
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Thanks for your comments. You may not be aware of the laws in Arizona. Specifically, the legislature enacted the following to force the state to use its resources to take whatever steps it could to reduce illegal immigration into Arizona.

Napalitano choose to ignore the law as the chief executive of the state. If she ignores the law in the state where she has resources to help, it makes me wonder if she is the right person at the federal level to deal with the problem. I hope I'm wrong, but after watching her actions closely for years here, I wonder.

I added the boldface for clarity. This is from the Arizona Revised Statues:

13-2319. Smuggling; classification; definitions

A. It is unlawful for a person to intentionally engage in the smuggling of human beings for profit or commercial purpose.

B. A violation of this section is a class 4 felony.

C. Notwithstanding subsection B, a violation of this section is a class 2 felony if the human being smuggled is under eighteen years of age and not accompanied by a family member over the age of eighteen. Chapter 10 of this title does not apply to a violation of this subsection.

D. For the purposes of this section:

1. "Family member" means the person's parent, grandparent, sibling or any other person related to the person by consanguinity or affinity to the second degree.

2. "Smuggling of human beings" means the transportation, procurement of transportation or use of property or real property by a person or an entity that knows or has reason to know that the person or persons transported or to be transported are not United States citizens, permanent resident aliens or persons otherwise lawfully in this state.
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Folks, political discussions are not permitted by iRV2's rules.

Let's get back to this thread's topic.

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