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Old 12-04-2008, 07:51 PM   #99
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I hate the photo cameras.
They take away the ability to make an honest mistake.
Like 3 in the morning you are blinded by some idiot with his bright lights on. You concentrate on him because he is obviously either asleep or just an agressive @#$. While you are keeping him in sight you slip through a stop sign that was partially obscured by a branch anyhow. No other traffic in sight. Poof with the camera you get a ticket. An LEO watching this might cut you some slack and just give you a warning. Heck he may decide to go after the idiot who may be DUI and dangerous.
The only person that can drive without ever making a mistake is a robot.
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Old 12-05-2008, 08:22 AM   #100
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You have every right to argue your points to the Judge/hearing officer. However, the people killed by red light runners cannot be heard.
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Old 12-05-2008, 04:41 PM   #101
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Route 66:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">In Texas, it's customary for slower vehicles to move to the shoulder to allow following vehicles to pass on 2 lane roads. Most of our roads have wide shoulders to allow this practice. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's interesting the first time you encounter it.

The car that pulls onto the shoulder doesn't necessarily slow down but continues at their speed as you go by. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ain't it great!! I really think we have some of the best roads.
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Didn't Texas make the practice of using the shoulder to allow passing illegal?
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:42 PM   #103
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The download website for that camera traps file is: discoveryowners.com

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Jocat54:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Route 66:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">In Texas, it's customary for slower vehicles to move to the shoulder to allow following vehicles to pass on 2 lane roads. Most of our roads have wide shoulders to allow this practice. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It's interesting the first time you encounter it.

The car that pulls onto the shoulder doesn't necessarily slow down but continues at their speed as you go by. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Ain't it great!! I really think we have some of the best roads. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
After many visits to TX, some for the winter months, I see the practicality of this; However- it against TX state driving laws. My cousin pulled onto that wide shoulder to allow a auto to pass, like nearly all Texans. Well, that passing auto made a right turn just after passing my cousin. The responding police officer ticketed my cousin for illegaly driving on the shoulder, and causing a collision. After that incident I never pull onto the shoulder unless I'm turning right.
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Old 12-06-2008, 06:58 PM   #104
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From the current Texas Transportation Code:


Sec. 545.058. DRIVING ON IMPROVED SHOULDER.

(a) An operator may drive on an improved shoulder to the right of the main traveled portion of a roadway if that operation is necessary and may be done safely, but only:

(1) to stop, stand, or park;

(2) to accelerate before entering the main traveled lane of traffic;

(3) to decelerate before making a right turn;

(4) to pass another vehicle that is slowing or stopped on the main traveled portion of the highway, disabled, or preparing to make a left turn;

(5) to allow another vehicle traveling faster to pass;

(6) as permitted or required by an official traffic-control device; or

(7) to avoid a collision.

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Thanks Rusty, it's too late to help my cousin but useful for me. The (a) sub-paragraph is what must have caught him "necessary" being the operative word.

To all- that link in my previous post is not what I thought I was linking, useful but doesn't have a camera or radar link.
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Here is the place for: speed/camera downloads. Sorry for this additional post, I exceeded the 15min edit limit.
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Even though it is considered a courtesy to move over on the shoulder and let faster traffic pass in Texas, I generally will not do it, unless I am really running slow. I have gotten too many flats from debris on the shoulder. If the shoulder is clean, I will try to move over.

Sorry about your cousin and the accident, there are a lot of LEO's out there that do not fully understand the law. It is also possible that the LEO was working or knew the fellow that caused the wreck and was being a little crooked to help him out. It has been known to happen.

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Some nit wit rear ended my toad because I stoped at a stop sign (of course he told the cop it was my fault. (because I stopped) takes all kinds.
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Robert, sounds like that guy was from Mexico, they make rolling stops there.
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Last week I came close to being rear ended in my truck because I stopped for a red light...and the fool set down on the horn at me for stopping...imagine the concept for stopping for a red light and not trying to run it.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ray,IN:
Robert, sounds like that guy was from Mexico, they make rolling stops there. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Here in Florida we call those "California" stops.

Ken, how inconsiderate of you. Making that obviously a VIP have to slow down or stop for something as silly as a little ole red light.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Ken, how inconsiderate of you. Making that obviously a VIP have to slow down or stop for something as silly as a little ole red light </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

did you know that in Florida three cars can go through the light after it changes red. (must be the law I see it all the time.)
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