Journey with Confidence RV GPS App RV Trip Planner RV LIFE Campground Reviews RV Maintenance Take a Speed Test Free 7 Day Trial ×
RV Trip Planning Discussions

Go Back   iRV2 Forums > iRV2.com COMMUNITY FORUMS > iRV2.com General Discussion
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 11-27-2008, 05:30 AM   #1
Senior Member
 
RedT's Avatar
 
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 539
If traveling in Arizona this winter, be advised that photo radar - both stationary and portable - is in wide spread use throughout the state.
You will receive a NOTICE OF VIOLATION in the mail with a photo of the vehicle driver and the license plate. Sanctions start at $180.00!

How do I know? Doing 66 on Interstate 17 (it was posted 55 MPH, but NO ONE goes that slow!) Legal? Dunno, but local TV states they have over 40 mobile systems, plus many fixed cameras are in use in the Phoenix area.

The local TV stated that cameras would be in use every 20 miles on I-40 and I-10 across Arizona.
__________________
RedT, US Air Force Retired
2004 Itasca Meridian, 2023 Ford Maverick Hybrid
M&G Brakes System, VMSpc, Pressure Pro TPMS
RedT is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 11-27-2008, 05:30 AM   #2
Senior Member
 
RedT's Avatar
 
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 539
If traveling in Arizona this winter, be advised that photo radar - both stationary and portable - is in wide spread use throughout the state.
You will receive a NOTICE OF VIOLATION in the mail with a photo of the vehicle driver and the license plate. Sanctions start at $180.00!

How do I know? Doing 66 on Interstate 17 (it was posted 55 MPH, but NO ONE goes that slow!) Legal? Dunno, but local TV states they have over 40 mobile systems, plus many fixed cameras are in use in the Phoenix area.

The local TV stated that cameras would be in use every 20 miles on I-40 and I-10 across Arizona.
__________________
RedT, US Air Force Retired
2004 Itasca Meridian, 2023 Ford Maverick Hybrid
M&G Brakes System, VMSpc, Pressure Pro TPMS
RedT is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2008, 06:38 AM   #3
Senior Member
 
LindaH's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Spokane, WA
Posts: 1,545
I welcome photo radar, particularly in Arizona! We've lived in Arizona and now spend the winters there so we know how fast people drive, both on the freeway and on the surface streets.
__________________
2014 Winnebago Aspect 27K
2011 Kia Soul
LindaH is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2008, 07:23 AM   #4
Moderator Emeritus
 
TXiceman's Avatar
 
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Bryan, TX when not traveling.
Posts: 22,945
Blog Entries: 21
I also welcome the use of photo radar as well as photo red light cameras. There are too many drivers with total disregard of the laws of our roads. They do not think about the results of their running a red light or speeding other than they were not detained by the light or slowed down a bit.

It all boils down to the old...you do the crime, you do the time.

Ken
__________________
Amateur Radio Operator (KE5DFR)|No Longer Full-Time! - 2023 Cougar 22MLS toted by 2022 F150, 3.5L EcoBoost Tow Max FX4 Lariat Travel with one Standard Schnauzer and one small Timneh African Gray Parrot, retired mechanical engineer
TXiceman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-27-2008, 07:25 PM   #5
Registered User
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,603
I dont like the concept of photo radar because it tickets the car and not the driver. If they can take a picture of the driver to prove who was behind the wheel then maybe it would be fair.
georgetown350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2008, 01:00 AM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Bangor, Maine USA
Posts: 38
Photo radar is a big step closer to 1984 - big brother watching our every move - no need for law enforcement officers to make the pinch, and just try to have your day in court against a speeding ticket.
Our interstate highway system was modelled after the autobans - limited access, great sight, easy turns. The interstates were designed for higher speeds - like 85 mph. So where are the speed traps set? The absolutely safest venue for high speed travel.
Interstate speed traps are there for revenue rather than safety reasons.
__________________
https://www.irv2.com/photopost/data/500/combined.jpg27 FK Alumascape TT
Greenie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2008, 03:24 AM   #7
Senior Member
 
SeeTheUSA's Avatar
 
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Texas
Posts: 2,478
When George Orwell wrote the book "1984" back in 1949, his speculation seemed preposterous - people were . . . well, kinder, more polite, inclined to follow society's rules and social norms. We really didn't need such things as cameras to confirm rules were being followed - most people just did because it was thought to be the right thing to do.

Now? More like anything goes! But we're told we should value that. Okay - I value that, particularly if there's a fee associated with wild and crazy behavior and social deviancy.



I know, one of those speed cameras might catch me someday . . . oh well, that's what I get for not following the rules. Reckon I might deserve it!

__________________
Warren and Debbie, Deep in The Heart of Texas
2018 Winnebago View 24D
2014 Tiffin Breeze 32BR, 2012 Winnebago Navion 24G, 2006 Winnebago View 23H
SeeTheUSA is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2008, 04:40 AM   #8
Senior Member
 
MtManLee's Avatar
Official iRV2 Sponsor
 
Monaco Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Utah
Posts: 611
IMHO its the one who complains about the laws that commit the most infractions. Having worked in law enforcement, the biggest share of tickets went first to the rich in their fancy cars and dang did they complain a lot and second to the young who were testing the waters as most youngsters do.
Like someone else said, you do the crime you do the time. I get a ticket its my fault. Thank the system for putting officers out there to slow me down. And it is a safety issue, police depts, cities and counties only get to share 1% of most tickets state gets the rest. So where is the monetary advantage in that? If it were the revenue, believe me there would be a heck of a lot more enforcement.
__________________
Lee and Fran
Holiday Rambler Vacationer
While traveling down lives paths stop to smell the flowers.
MtManLee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2008, 05:01 AM   #9
Moderator Emeritus
 
TXiceman's Avatar
 
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Bryan, TX when not traveling.
Posts: 22,945
Blog Entries: 21
The 1984 mind set is off base. Rules (and laws) are put into effect to keep people safe when they do not have the common sense to do what is right.

As for big brother watching, someone has to watch and you are after all on a public road and breaking a rule which applies to all equally, no distinction is made as to economic status, race, religion or what color socks you wear.

No the camera will not get your face, but I would sure like to know who is driving my vehicle and do keep up with who is allowed to drive it.

So buckle up, carry the proper insurance, stop at stop lights and stop signs and do not speed. You won't have a problem then.

Ken
__________________
Amateur Radio Operator (KE5DFR)|No Longer Full-Time! - 2023 Cougar 22MLS toted by 2022 F150, 3.5L EcoBoost Tow Max FX4 Lariat Travel with one Standard Schnauzer and one small Timneh African Gray Parrot, retired mechanical engineer
TXiceman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2008, 05:16 AM   #10
Senior Member
 
Stanbnv's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 130
Stay between the lines. Be good little Hitler Youth. Nothing bad will happen to you. The government is here to help you. After 30 years in the US Coast Guard, and several years of retirement, I'm pretty sure that we will become as highly regulated in our society as Russia was under Stalin, maybe not as brutal, but even more closely watched. But we will be safe from all the bad people that want to hurt ys..
__________________
When you come to a fork in the road, take it!
Stanbnv is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2008, 05:39 AM   #11
Registered User
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,603
I would presume that a photo radar speeding ticket would not hold up in court if challenged properly.
georgetown350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2008, 05:41 AM   #12
Registered User
 
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,603
Does photo radar actually take a picture of the driver?????????
georgetown350 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2008, 05:50 AM   #13
doc
Senior Member
 
doc's Avatar
 
Appalachian Campers
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Dixie !! (north Georgia) USA
Posts: 4,113
We put in a number of redlight cameras before my retirement from the PD. The selling point was 'not cost to the government, we do everything'. The citizens were 'sold' this idea of safer streets and less accidents.
After they were in for a year or so, the numbers were run and there was no diference in the number of accidents. What it did show was the government had a large increase in the amount of money from these cameras. Again the citizens were not told that the company who 'did everything' was also making a pile of money off the project as their share of take.
This kind of thing is not about safety, it is about money, pure and simple. It will never be outlawed because the money becomes an essential part of the budget.
doc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-28-2008, 07:05 AM   #14
Senior Member
 
FatDog's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: NV
Posts: 2,065
Send a message via MSN to FatDog
here in SanDiego the private firm that installed the red-light cameras (and collects a percentage of the ticket fees) was found to have wrongly set the time of the yellow light too short by a second or two which caused more tickets to be given
(some) fines paid were returned and guilty pleas were overturned retroactively

other then that, as good citizens there are probably 200 important things we can worry about and fix with our local gov't, and to me the red-light camera ranks somewhere around 201
__________________
F350 PSD 4x4 SRW, BanksBrake, FOX res shocks, MagHytec, DP tuner, JohnWood tranny;
ChrisCraft Launch VP8.1 ;
3 hound dogs
FatDog is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Arizona WaveMaker CB & Ham Radio 7 06-25-2008 04:28 AM
Hello from Arizona cameo23 New Member Check-In 7 07-08-2007 09:27 AM
Hello from Arizona!!! haulin" AZ New Member Check-In 5 07-04-2007 09:38 AM
Arizona P&S Camping Locations, Plans & Trip Reports 10 03-14-2007 07:13 AM
Where To RV In Arizona?! WWFan Toy Haulers Discussion 1 10-14-2006 05:15 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:05 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.