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Old 03-12-2012, 10:07 AM   #1
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Possible switch to Dish from Direct TV

Good Morning IRV2 members,
We currently have direct tv with the enclosed trac vision IV dish on the roof of the MH. Direct won't let us have the distant stations CBS,NBC,ABC,Fox, on this single LNB dish and with the digital TV it is getting more difficult to get local stations at times when we are out in the country or whatever.
Now we are thinking of switching to Dish TV because of various reasons and wondered if anyone knows of a dish we can use that is reasonable price? With Dish, can we use the single LNB dish for everything or does it also require a tripple LNB? We are not interested in getting HD but just SD TV and the CBS,NBC,ABC,Fox. If you have any ideas let me know.
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Hi Bill.

We are Dish Subscribers. First, it may be possible that your present system can be programmed to receive the Dish Network satellites, typically 119, 110, and 129 and A few others for the different seaboard locations.

I take my VIP 722 DVR with us when we travel and it works fine. When we had the Montanan 3400RL we have a KVH dome on the roof. It received all three satellites, but one must remember that all the DOMES on the market can only receive one satellite at a time. There are now automatic open faced antennas that will receive all three at one time.

When we traded for the MH it did not have a satellite antenna so for less than a $100 I bought one of the 3 horn lnb's from a dealer, and a tripod. I can tell you that after many frustrating hours at different stops I one day said - that's it. I went out and bought the CarryOut antenna, which is a portable dome. It receives the Dish Network satellites ONE at a time, which is typical for all domes.

We subscribe to our local channels at the stick house, so they are sent down by the "Spot Beam." I have been as far away as 300 miles and still received the spot beam. After that it is a no-go. So when subscribing to the National Channels for travel out of your home area, you should not have a problem receiving the National channels.

Good luck.
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I have a single lnb and DTV sells me the DNS. Wonder why they won't sell it to you?? Mine is an 18" manual dish antenna.
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I too have an older dish. The Trac-vision SF that came on my coach and I get the East coast network stations from Direct. Just had to send in a copy of my coach registration and sign a form that I wouldn't watch it at home, only in the coach. Go figure! My local area does not offer local channels to Direct so that may be a factor too.
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Bill, unless you just want to change over to Dish Network, you need to call Directv and talk to someone else. You can definitely pick up east and west coast networks with a single LNB dome. I have been a subscriber to them (DNS) "forever". I have an old obsolete Winegard dome on our motorhome with one LNB and it works fine. You do have to sign a statement and send a copy of your vehicle registration to Directv. You cannot get HD programming with your dome. Some of the people you are connected with by telephoning Directv are just not well informed.
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Good Morning IRV2 members,
We currently have direct tv with the enclosed trac vision IV dish on the roof of the MH. Direct won't let us have the distant stations CBS,NBC,ABC,Fox, on this single LNB dish and with the digital TV it is getting more difficult to get local stations at times when we are out in the country or whatever.
Now we are thinking of switching to Dish TV because of various reasons and wondered if anyone knows of a dish we can use that is reasonable price? With Dish, can we use the single LNB dish for everything or does it also require a tripple LNB? We are not interested in getting HD but just SD TV and the CBS,NBC,ABC,Fox. If you have any ideas let me know.
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Bill O,
We have the DirecTv DNS, (Distant Network Stations) and receive SD (not HD), CBS,NBC,ABC,Fox network stations with a roof mounted single LNB KingDome. (Your trac vision IV antenna should work the same).

You will need to fill out the appropriate forms and verify the antenna is mounted on an RV registered to you, and pay the EXTRA charge each month for either E or W feeds, depending on the location of your billing address.
That may be less expensive, in the long run, than changing antennas.

We get both E&W feeds which is no longer available.
We were grandfathered in, (customers since 2002).

Call DircecTv and ask for the DNS, (or mobile, or RV) dept.

BTY, Since you are a DirecTv customer, the best place to start may be DirecTv's "customer retention dept".
If you tell them you want the networks and are thinking about switching to Dish, they will "bend over backwards" to keep your business!
They do not want to loose your $$ each month!
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WHy does direc say you can not have DNS, the DNS stations are on the one satellite of theirs that your antenna can see (101) all the non HD programming is on 101, last I checked,

Or do you have a home account and use your "Spare receiver" in your RV, That is a violation of your Direc contract (By the way. to be frank, I do not give a ___M about that, and more power to you if that's what you are doing) but the fact is your house, (Assuming it gets local stations) DOES NOT QUALIFY for DNS.

This is why I tell people don't do it that way.. Get an RV account and use the spare receiver(S) in your house.

By the way, same rules with Dish.

The problem with DISH is that if all you want is network TV, then 119 is the bird for you. but ... There are 3 satellites I think 110, 119 and 127 (may be 129) and the programming is spread across them.. If you have one and only one receiver, your rooftop antenna may be able to keep it happy, or it may be upgradable to keep it happy,

If you have multiple receivers or a DVR (2 receivers in one box) you will run into conflicts where you want to view or record shows on two DIFFERENT birds at the same time, Domes can not do that. No way .

In about 2 years I'm going to try and have a chat with someone at Dish and see if they can offer me a "One satellite" account, ONLY programming on 119. For less.
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We started with DirectTV, more years ago than to matter, but have been DishNet subscribers for about 8 years. We recently bought a Tailgater (see on DishNet website) then replaced the older coach with a new, older coach, which has a dome and Dish receiver. No swearing not to use either receiver at home. As I recall, we did buy the Direct equipment. With DishNet, we rent the residential equipment, we bought the Tailgater - I have no idea who 'owns' the receiver in the coach - lol. However, because we already are subscribers to Dish, the rv receivers will cost us an extra $7 a month (HD) I presume the also advertised price of $5 is for SD.

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We have Dish and have used it all over the eastern part of the US. We now have a Vcube 2000 which recieves 2 sat 110 and 119
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I have Direct, and I checked into getting the CBS, NBC, ABC east and west coast feeds (I already had the Fox channels). I want to point out that I have Direct in my "stick and brick" and my RV "piggy backs" the home account. Direct knows this and charges me $6.00/month per receiver in the RV. The only way I can pick up the main stream channels (east/west coast) is by having and paying for separate accounts for the RV and house, and this just doesn't make much sense to me since I hardy watch CBS, NBC, or ABC. I do watch Fox once in a while.

The spot beam for my locals can be view around 300 miles or so away. Direct will tell you that 150 mile is about the limit, however maybe that's "as the crow flys" cause I have picked up the Roanoke, VA feeds down in Atlanta, GA.

Over all, I've been very happy with my Direct service (other than the price) but then again, I subscribe to their very top line plan and I guess "if you want tp play, you got to pay"

Just for everybodies info, I have a KVH R6 in motion (dome) on the coach along with a Winegard for HD TV for when we are set up somewhere.
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Good Morning IRV2 members,
We currently have direct tv with the enclosed trac vision IV dish on the roof of the MH. Direct won't let us have the distant stations CBS,NBC,ABC,Fox, on this single LNB dish and with the digital TV it is getting more difficult to get local stations at times when we are out in the country or whatever.
Now we are thinking of switching to Dish TV because of various reasons and wondered if anyone knows of a dish we can use that is reasonable price? With Dish, can we use the single LNB dish for everything or does it also require a tripple LNB? We are not interested in getting HD but just SD TV and the CBS,NBC,ABC,Fox. If you have any ideas let me know.
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Dish network does not offer distant network channels but they are available from All American Direct (google search) on satellite 119. Most of Dish's SD programming is on 119. HD is mostly on 129 and local channel programming is on 110. You can receive all the SD TV you need including distant networks on one sat (119) and do not need a multiple lnb dish. You current dish will work. You can probably buy a receiver from someone on ebay and use it with Dish without a contract but, i'm not sure.
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I installed Dish Tailgater this past weekend. Very happy with it so far.
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Just for the sake of accuracy, Dish does now provide the DNS themselves. I just got it last year on a 'pay as you go' plan and actually got both east and west ( but just the west in HD).
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We have Dish in the motorhome (subscriber since 1999) and cable in the house. What we have done when we are traveling out of state is to call Dish and just change the address for our present location if we want to get the local "local" channels. Note also that this entails a change of satellite. Once we get out of our spot area, it is interesting that we lose all of the national local channels for our area, except for channel 5.

I have been fairly happy with Dish over the years and they recently added RV tech support folk who know what a motorhome is.....even if they are in India? My main complaint is that when I have the motorhome parked in its garage, it will not get updates from Dish. When we are ready to head out some place, I have to call and get updates before we get reception.
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