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12-31-2011, 04:52 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: E WA or S TX
Posts: 4,057
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A 1500 watt heater running full time for 12 hours, uses 18 KWH. If power is 12 cents a KWH it comes to $2.16. Yet many CG will charge you $2-$3 extra for 50 amp. If you pay for it, why can't you use it?
In many RVs if you ran the heater continuously, the wiring would melt!
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12-31-2011, 04:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 114
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Any rule or law has to be enforceable. Seems to me knowing someone is using an electric heater would be pretty difficult. Where I live, a CG wouldn't be in business very long prohibiting air conditioners.
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12-31-2011, 05:08 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Solo Rvers Club
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Some Place
Posts: 1,161
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And how would they know anyway?
They simply need to raise there rates to cover electrical use.
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12-31-2011, 05:10 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Granbury, Texas
Posts: 1,394
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I was a business owner for over 30 years and I realize that the CG owner may have reasons that are not known to me and I will obey his/her rules. If they notify me upon arrival of any rules that I don't agree with then I have the right to get back in my MH and leave the campground. Once I have been notified and agree to their rules by paying their fee then I have NO RIGHT to do anything except to obey the rules. They own the campground and they have the right to restrict use of anything in the camp, it is their right as a business owner and I respect that right. I also expect them to respect my right to leave the campground and find another one that allows me to run whatever equipment I want to.
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12-31-2011, 05:16 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: North America somewhere
Posts: 30,903
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jzick
I guess I must be in the minority. If I rent services at an rv park and they say something is not included, then I either accept the rules or do not stay there. A business owner who declares openly (in writing) that they do not allow electric heaters has just reserved the right to ask me to leave if I do not abide by those rules. If the rules say leash your dog, I leash it. If the rules say no campfires, I do not try to burn a campfire. If the rules say no electric heaters, I do not use them.
We are beginning to see electric meters being put on all rv sites at some parks and have heard laundry room/pool scuttlebutt that there is some thought to requiring a deposit for electric use, even for transients, although we have not seen that yet. Almost everywhere we stay monthly charges separately for electric. In some states the charge can only be what is allowed by the utility commission, in others whatever traffic will bear. We are heavy duty electric users, and feel we should pay our way.
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I agree. Follow the rules you agreed upon or take you business elsewhere. Just like this website, we can choose to abide by the rules we agreed with at signup- or leave.
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12-31-2011, 05:26 PM
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Senior Member
Damon Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: North East Texas
Posts: 4,946
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yep, if I pay for a full hook up site and its 50 amp, then i am to presume i can use the full 50 amps if i feel so inclined.
if they have a surcharge for me having two a/c units, i must be in the wrong cg.
If i cheap out and stay at a place that is that way.....
I have seen notes please asking to conserve power and help keep power stable during peak hours
but what about a 100% all electric rig? are you to declare no propane on board and get zinged for a bit of extra?
even if the site is 30 dollars a night for full hookups, you might use 6-10 bucks worth of power, but that would be in a high cost area
at home this summer, both rv a/cs and the the house a/c running, lots of laundry we averaged 6 dollars a day in power cost
this was with a house full of four adults, a grandchild and four dogs for two months straight
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12-31-2011, 05:29 PM
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Senior Member
Damon Owners Club Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 24,024
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tsronco
I have to agree with the previous posters, if I am a paying customer I will use my products plain and simple
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When I signed my membership contract the sales type said "Full hookups" well, at the park I stay at the most in the winter it's only 30 amps. if I want 50 I have to pay more.. This is not what I was promised (When will I learn to wear a wire.... Well, after that.. But that's another story)
I feel I am entitled to FULL POWER and of course since I'm paying for it. I should get to use it.
I have only had one park manager tell me "If I catch you using an electric heater it's outta the park with you"
He got replaced. (and no, I had nothing to do with it. others did)
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12-31-2011, 05:41 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northridge, Ca
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We seldom, never that I remember, have pulled into a campground without calling ahead and making a reservation. Now we are able to look up the campground in Trailer Life, check it out on RVparksreview, and google the site before we make the call. If there are restrictions we know about them and try to honor the rules. I therefore would only be concerned if after researching a full hookup campground I were to pull in to receive a note restricting a service.
Once again, that it the idea of having an RV with wheels...if I don't like the place I just move on down the road. We have pulled through and out of a few campgrounds because what was advertized was not what you would get.
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12-31-2011, 05:51 PM
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#23
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Shadow Hills,CA 91040
Posts: 3,038
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Outside my RV = Park Rules
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12-31-2011, 05:54 PM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver, WA
Posts: 37,725
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If they handed me the note before I pay, then fine, I can accept it or leave. AFTER I paid, then it's too late. I paid for full hookups.
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12-31-2011, 06:20 PM
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Registered User
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 520
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If I pay for 50 amps, I expect 50 amps. That's why I bought a 50 amp coach. If the cg owner does not want me to use 50 amps then change the breakers and plugs to 20 amps and STOP ADVERTISING 50 AMPS and we will never meet.
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12-31-2011, 06:44 PM
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#26
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Posts: 2,569
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If I run my heat pump am I in violation? How about if I turn my engine heater on the night before I leave on a chilly morning? What if I keep a pot of coffee on all the time or my crock-pot? Will they in the future regulate how many hours I can watch TV? I'm sorry, full hook-ups means just that. Am I supposed to burn candles? It does take electricity to charge my batteries. I'm not ranting.....I'm just saying.
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12-31-2011, 06:50 PM
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#27
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 208
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We're staying in a CG outside Manvel, Tx. I found this CG on line and they even call themselves a Resort. Monthly rate was listed as $275 plus electric. So we pulled up and they said because I have a BIG RV I would use too much electric power and I had to pay $350 a month plus electric at 18c a Kw. (each site is metered) I argued that if I'm paying for the electric why do I have to pay extra? But to no avail. We're leaving next week and will find another park in the area when we are back in this area in Febuary. I will be sure and let them know why I'm not returing to their very nice RV Resort. $75 isn't going to kill me but it's just the way they did it.
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12-31-2011, 07:16 PM
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#28
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2011
Posts: 302
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This summer we stayed at a private campground that charged $2.00/day extra for using an air conditioner. That was in addition to the $30/day site fee. Fortunately, it was fairly cool the four days we were there, so we didn't need the a/c. We had made the reservations well in advance, but I don't remember whether we were told in advance about the extra fee or not. I just checked their website, and the home page says $30.00 night every night all season long. On the reservation page it shows $2.00 per night additional fee for a/c.
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