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Old 12-31-2011, 11:43 AM   #1
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I've noticed that a lot of CG's now hand you notices when you check in, prohibiting the use of electric heaters. I can only assume its to conserve on their winter electric bills.

What do you do in such a CG? Run them anyway or use your on-board furnace / heating system?


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Old 12-31-2011, 12:07 PM   #2
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Hi Craig P.,
I'd say the owner/manager of that CG is an idiot and way behind the times. This can not be managed and is offensive to customers.

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Old 12-31-2011, 12:26 PM   #3
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It would make sense if the CG had only 20 AMP service, but most CGs now have 30 and or 50 AMP service. In that case the owner/manager is trying to save on expenses. I've also seen no "air conditioners" in some old CGs.
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Old 12-31-2011, 12:37 PM   #4
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We run them anyway. We had one camp ground in TX that charged us an additional $25 for 50 amp & $25 for having 2 a/c units. This was in the winter months when the a/c was not being used. We were not concerned with using our electric heaters even though they gave us a notice not to.
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Old 12-31-2011, 01:31 PM   #5
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This is becoming more common as RV park owners struggle to survive. There is a movement afoot to place electric meters on every site, even for overnight stays. Sounds like they are learning from KOA.
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Old 12-31-2011, 02:46 PM   #6
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The campground is trying to reduce it's electric bill.. Personally. I do what I have to do and it will be Feburary at the earliest before I can get the furnace to furnace again.
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Old 12-31-2011, 03:23 PM   #7
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This is just another way to intimidate the customer into helping the RV park owner to save their money not yours.

I pay for my site when I check in which is a FULL Hookup site. That includes electricity in most cases. If I happen to be staying a month, some sites require a monthly electric allotment. if they THINK that I am going to manage my electricity when I am paying extravagant prices for their daily, weekly or month rate, they have got to be kidding.

I ignore them and do what is best to keep warm or cool. If they don't like it then I can take my business elsewhere.

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Old 12-31-2011, 03:28 PM   #8
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I have to agree with the previous posters, if I am a paying customer I will use my products plain and simple
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:07 PM   #9
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I guess I must be in the minority. If I rent services at an rv park and they say something is not included, then I either accept the rules or do not stay there. A business owner who declares openly (in writing) that they do not allow electric heaters has just reserved the right to ask me to leave if I do not abide by those rules. If the rules say leash your dog, I leash it. If the rules say no campfires, I do not try to burn a campfire. If the rules say no electric heaters, I do not use them.

We are beginning to see electric meters being put on all rv sites at some parks and have heard laundry room/pool scuttlebutt that there is some thought to requiring a deposit for electric use, even for transients, although we have not seen that yet. Almost everywhere we stay monthly charges separately for electric. In some states the charge can only be what is allowed by the utility commission, in others whatever traffic will bear. We are heavy duty electric users, and feel we should pay our way.
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:25 PM   #10
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Somebody explain to me what I'm missing here. I'm paying the campground owner's asking rate for a 50 amp transient (not monthly or seasonal) site which provides me with 12000 watts of capacity (120VAC x 50 amps x 2 legs), yet I'm being told that I'm not allowed to use up to the full 12000 watts however I wish???

Frankly, I don't get it.

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Old 12-31-2011, 04:30 PM   #11
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One surly CG owner wanted exta for an A/C one time. I had asked if I could run it for an hour just to cool down the coach after the long drive. Didn't matter if it was one minute, the fee still applies... so I ran two ceramic heaters all night in one of the bays, just to make sure I got my moneys worth, plus the A/C fan in the camper, as it was cool enough to sleep but too warm for heat.

I personally don't like to have to pay extra for anything as it should be included without saying. A motel doesn't charge you for using the A/C or heat. It's part of basic comfort with a camper. I note it in my log and, if I'm in the area again, I try to find another campground to do my business with. I figure that, if they charge al la carte then they don't want me back.
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Old 12-31-2011, 04:31 PM   #12
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I'm of mixed emotions on this issue. I rather strongly feel that when I pay for a 50A or 30A site, I am entitled to use the 50A or 30A however I see fit. If you tell me I have 50A and charge me for it, but effectively allow me to use only 15A-20A (about all I can draw if no a/c or no heat), what did I pay for?

But in general I feel that the CG owner can set the rules anyway he likes and expect me to conform. I can take my business elsewhere if I don't like it. And I do.

All that said, I would use the electric heat for a modest bit of warming, like taking the chill off in the a.m., but would use the furnace if it were a cold night and we needed heat all night.
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Originally Posted by RustyJC View Post
Somebody explain to me what I'm missing here. I'm paying the campground owner's asking rate for a 50 amp transient (not monthly or seasonal) site which provides me with 12000 watts of capacity (120VAC x 50 amps x 2 legs), yet I'm being told that I'm not allowed to use up to the full 12000 watts however I wish???

Frankly, I don't get it.

No matter whether it is reasonable or not, IMO, a business owner has every right to put whatever restrictions they want on services. If a cg, for instance says no dogs allowed, then no dogs are allowed. We are renting services. If that service is somehow restricted then our choice is to not rent there.

Last summer we parked next to a person who complained all day that the cg wifi was slow - ours was just fine. Turns out that he had exceeded the daily allotment for usage set by the cg and he was throttled. He screamed the same argument - that he paid for service and would use whatever he wanted, etc, etc. and was still screaming on his way to the office. An hour or so later a sheriff's deputy watched him pack and followed him out.

To me it is the same thing. The business owner does not wish to rent electricity to run heaters. To me, his business, his rules. Others may disagree.
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If they rent me the space I will do or run what I want in my RV. Thats just the way it is. If you don't want air conditioners of heaters, turn the place into storage lockers and get on with your life.

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