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Old 09-09-2012, 08:03 PM   #1
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putting in regular flush toilet

My RV trailer is permanently parked and i want to replace the foot pedal stool and black tank with a household flush toilet. Has anyone ever done this?

I'd like to do it in such a way that the RV toilet could be reinstalled down the road if I ever sell it.

I am permanently connected to a septic tank with 4" PVC and I dump the black tank into the septic tank when ever it gets full. Since the tank never sloshes arould to discentrigate the poop and paper, it is a chore to get it cleaned out fully. Generally, the line gets stopped up with paper even though we always use the RV toilet paper. This requires a back flush and sometimes using a water hose from the top.l

So, I'd like to drop the black tank, take out the current stool, and install a regular flush toilet. Any guidance would be appreciated.

My RV is a 2011 Jayco 29RLS trailer.
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Old 09-09-2012, 08:34 PM   #2
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I don't see any reason you could not do that. On the other hand, I don't understand why you are having trouble with the present set-up. We sometimes stay at one location for 6-10 weeks and dump periodically as you now do. There is no need to drive around to "slosh" the tanks - they should be fine if you let them get at least 2/3 full before dumping. Unless perhaps people are putting stuff in the RV toilet that should never go there...
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Old 09-09-2012, 08:35 PM   #3
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Ditto on what Gary said.

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Sounds like you're not using enough water at each flush,try that.
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Thetford makes a nice porcelain toilet with an electric flush.....just push the button. It has two settings. One sprays a single squirt of water and the other sprays four squirts of water. The four squirt rinses well and places a fair amount of water in a single flush.
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The "mounting brackets" will probably be different and the "clearances" certainly will be. The household unit water tank sits well back with extra clearance required...
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The other problem with installing a regular toilet is you will either have to run it through the existing black tank, which doesn't eliminate the problem of debris clogging the line, or you will have to remove the black tank altogether and plumb the toilet directly to the sewer line, which means you won't be able to reinstall the RV toilet later when you sell.

Use more water to flush as others have suggested. Wait until the tank is at least 2/3 full to dump so there is plenty of volume to carry all the waste out of the tank. You could also install a black tank rinse to help move things along. We park for 3 or 4 months at a time when we winter in Florida, and we never have a problem.
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You are approaching your problem in the wrong way. 1000's of us out here don't have this problem. I suspect you are not adding any water to the tank after dumping. When not boondocking (plenty of water available) I'll add 5 gals of water. This keeps the initial solids floating and eliminates the formimg of a solid pyramid on the bottom of the tank. Once one of these forms, you will have the problems you are experiencing. Until you get the hang of it, get a flashlight to see the bottom of the tank. If there is anything there not floating, you need more water. BTW, we use regular household TP.
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We live in our MH for six months without moving it and we use septic safe paper with no problems. I beleive you need to add water after emptying and use more water when you flush.
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Sounds like you're not using enough water at each flush,try that.
I fill the black tank clear full before opening the dump valve. It usually empties about half the tank then slows to a trickle. Fill it again, and the same thing happens. Lately I've been using a water hose running full blast from the top and moving it around in the bottom of the tank. If I let the tank set 30 minutes then I can see the bottom of the tank when looking down through the stool with a flashlight.

It may be that one of my grandchildren dropped something in the tank. But I have no idea how to determine if that is the case. Maybe if I had a video camera on a wire? Where could I get one of those? Then I'd need some way to retrieve the object if one was seen.

I just know that I'm totally bummed out about the tank system in my RV!!!!
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...Maybe if I had a video camera on a wire? Where could I get one of those?...
Many plumbers have a camera to probe sewers. Your job should be easy because he would only have to go a few feet.
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Harbor freight sells the bore scope cameras, several different models at different prices.

Most are water proof.

Get it drained out first, then you should be good with a camera, most have about a 3 foot snorkel, and they come with a hook that will snap to the end, but you need to tape the hook on because the snap is weak.
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I think a simple drain snake would do the job to bust the partial blockage. At least I would try that first.

It might be scary to go in with a camera and see Barney sitting there
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