Go Back   iRV2 Forums > iRV2.com COMMUNITY FORUMS > iRV2.com General Discussion
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
Old 02-03-2014, 10:37 AM   #15
Moderator Emeritus
 
Gary RVRoamer's Avatar


 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Silver Springs, FL. USA
Posts: 18,066
I think ronjhall is comparing radiant vs convection rather tan quartz vs ceramic (see previous explanations by pasdad1). All ceramic heaters are radiant types, while quartz can be radiant or convection. The most commonly available quartz heaters have a fan and are convection heaters, and all convection heaters heat up items and warm the air around them.
__________________

__________________
Gary Brinck
Former owner of 2004 American Tradition
Home is in the Ocala Nat'l Forest near Ocala, FL
Summers in Black Mountain, NC
Gary RVRoamer is offline   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 02-03-2014, 12:34 PM   #16
Senior Member
 
ronjhall's Avatar


 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,109
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gary RVRoamer View Post
I think ronjhall is comparing radiant vs convection rather tan quartz vs ceramic (see previous explanations by pasdad1). All ceramic heaters are radiant types, while quartz can be radiant or convection. The most commonly available quartz heaters have a fan and are convection heaters, and all convection heaters heat up items and warm the air around them.
I have not owned a radiant heater. Other than oil filled. When shopping at a big box store you will find both Ceramic and Quartz heaters on the shelf. Some have fans some do not.
__________________

__________________
2004 Endura 6340D SOLD
2012 Chevy Captiva toad
ronjhall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2014, 01:08 PM   #17
Senior Member
 
Caveman CBB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Storden,MN
Posts: 672
Whatever you decide I recommend getting one with a tip over switch built in.
__________________
Caveman CBB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2014, 03:07 PM   #18
Registered User
 
mel s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 8,777
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stan&Jacquie View Post
Bout to purchase two heaters to,offset our propane consumption. Can't decide which is best, quartz or ceramic. Would appreciate your recommendations. Which are quieter, most efficient, etc.
Stan&Jacquie
All electric heaters are nearly 100% efficient because all electric heating elements, (no matter what type, quartz, ceramic or wire), are 100% efficient.
Any 1500 watt, 120V, space heater, (whether it costs $30 or $15O), will produce 5115 BTU of heat....but ONLY IF it actually draws 1500 amps.

Some "so called 1500 watt heaters" actually draw far less watts than their description implies/suggests, (and therefore produce far less heat).

To make sure it is capable of delivering near the 5115 BTUs possible, I use a Kill-a-Watt meter to measure the draw of any electric heater before I buy it.
I have found that many "so called 1500 watt heaters", (even identical models by the same "reputable" manufacturer), draw as few as 700 watts, (which means they only produce 2388 BTU).... and as many as 1475 watts, (5032 BTU).

Don't believe the advertising hype!
If you do you may not get what you thought you paid for.

Mel
'96 Safari
__________________
mel s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-03-2014, 07:43 PM   #19
Senior Member
 
wa8yxm's Avatar
 
Damon Owners Club
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 22,790
Two differences between Quartz and Ceramic,, Cost and Size.
Quartz is generally higher in cost and larger in size.

Some advertisers make claims of higher effiency,,, Both are exactly 100% efficient, WHY, because all losses are heat.. Even the energy used to turn the fan and blow air is heat, 100% heat, in the end, Any light given off, is absorbed by things and becomes heat, it's all heat, and thus an electric heater is 100% efficient, can't be more, can't be less.
__________________
Home is where I park it!
wa8yxm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2014, 07:10 AM   #20
Senior Member
 
Murf2u's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Near Toronto, Canada
Posts: 1,842
Quote:
Originally Posted by wa8yxm View Post
Some advertisers make claims of higher effiency,,, Both are exactly 100% efficient, WHY, because all losses are heat.. Even the energy used to turn the fan and blow air is heat, 100% heat, in the end,
If I read that correctly then you're saying some heaters are actually then MORE than 100% efficient.

If I get work, the fan moving air, PLUS. 100% of the electricity used as heat then the unit is actually MORE than 100% efficient.

That's why I earlier said "nearly 100% efficient", if there is work being performed, there are some losses, albeit probably nothing in relation to a 1,500 watt heating element.
__________________
Ted 'n' Laurie, plus Jackson (aka Deputy Dog, the Parson Russell Terrier 'fur kid') and, Rylie (who crossed the Rainbow Bridge June 14, 2012).
Murf2u is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-05-2014, 09:30 AM   #21
Senior Member
 
pcurt23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,295
I use two ceramic heaters to supplement the heating system. I prefer the ones with digital temperature controls. I find they will maintain the temperature but have difficulty raising the temperature. I have a delonghi in the front room and a Pelonis in the bedroom. I prefer the Pelonis because it is smaller but not enough to spend money on another one. This is not the one but it is close

Amazon.com - Pelonis Dual Digital Oscillating Heater/Fan
__________________
Pcurt
2007 Fleetwood Bounder 38V
pcurt23 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2014, 10:40 AM   #22
Member
 
wolfer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 51
Neither

Infrared heat is safest and best. Mine has 6 elements and will heat my 40' motorhome in short order, and hold an even temp you can set with a remote. You can use 4 or 6 elements 6 is 1500 watts or you can use 4 elements and cut it almost in half with same heat level or another level where it will hold 68 degrees all thermostatically controled. You can set it at whatever you want at night like I keep at 55 at night then switch to 68 in the morning. It will shut off when over 68 or set it at 72 or warmer if you wish. It has wheels so you can roll it from room to room or point it down the hall when you shower if you wish.

Deluxe Infrared Space Heater - JNH Lifestyles
__________________
Molon Labe
wolfer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2014, 10:52 AM   #23
Senior Member


 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,275
Quote:
Originally Posted by wolfer View Post
Infrared heat is safest and best. Deluxe Infrared Space Heater - JNH Lifestyles
The big box makes it very stable and not likely to tip over, and the digital controls are nice, but I wish the marketing hype about these heaters would stop. NO infrared light escapes the box (except for the faint glow) so these are not really infrared heaters. They are convection (fan forced) heaters which heat the air......same as any other fan forced electric heater would.

Once the marketing hype goes away (probably in the year 2021. :-) ) the prices will start to reflect what they really are. If price is taken out of the equation, then yes I agree I would buy one as they look nicer and are safer than the little "cube" heaters.
__________________
pasdad1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-08-2014, 10:18 PM   #24
Member
 
wolfer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 51
Price is dropping

The 1200sq ft heaters were on sale before christmas around the 70 dollar mark. I bought one for myself and one for my son that is good for 2,000 sq ft area with 6 tubes regularly around 175 for 135.00 each. They will heat rooms very fast and are pretty safe. They do have a tip over switch and you can stand right in front of them without getting burnt. Safer for pets as well. Mine is about 18" square cube with wheels. I can push it up against a wall as the only heat comes out the front. sides are cool too. They can run a power bill up at 1500 watts. But safety factor is worth it to me.
__________________
Molon Labe
wolfer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 09:51 AM   #25
Registered User
 
mel s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Posts: 8,777
•Plug-in 120V heaters are limited to 1,500 watts, or 5,120 BTUs per hour of heat!
It's a scientific fact that 1500watts IN equals 5120 BTU OUT
.

Therefore any 1500 watt electric heater, (no matter what it cost.... if it's Quartz or Ceramic....what it looks like.... how many sq. ft. the advertizing hype says it will heat... or what you believe), will produce only 5120 BTU of heat.
See: Town of Middleton - Why Electric Heaters Won't Slash Bills

BTW, the BTUs necessary to heat a particular space varies.....
depending upon the cubic feet, (NOT the square feet), of the space... the heat loss of the space, (how well it is insulated).... and the rise in temperature you are trying to achieve in that space.

Mel
'96 Safari
__________________
mel s is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 04:41 PM   #26
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 156
Ill be purchasing one or two in the near future....any other recommendations?
__________________
Disneyfix is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-09-2014, 06:38 PM   #27
Senior Member


 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 3,275
Quote:
Originally Posted by Disneyfix View Post
Ill be purchasing one or two in the near future....any other recommendations?
One or two.......heaters in general ? Buy what you like and can afford. I like the oil filled radiators myself. If spending the money on a nice wood cabinet and digital readout doesn't hurt the budget, then go with the quartz "infrared" type. They all produce the same amount of heat per watt consumed.
__________________
pasdad1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 02-10-2014, 05:59 AM   #28
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 156
Quote:
Originally Posted by pasdad1 View Post
One or two.......heaters in general ? Buy what you like and can afford. I like the oil filled radiators myself. If spending the money on a nice wood cabinet and digital readout doesn't hurt the budget, then go with the quartz "infrared" type. They all produce the same amount of heat per watt consumed.
Heaters are for mh. Problem is I dont' know anything about them....this is part of the research I figured more people would have them....and there would be some consensus. Go figure. Thanks for the info.
__________________

__________________
Disneyfix is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Heaters thepilot Boondocking 57 03-04-2014 08:41 AM
Electric heater for RV, Ceramic? frederick w iRV2.com General Discussion 5 12-25-2013 06:43 PM
Dump air or not stan5711 Monaco Owner's Forum 10 11-19-2013 03:19 PM
Help! Replacing carpet with flooring transition problem between ceramic tile Thadaway Monaco Owner's Forum 10 07-05-2013 02:03 PM
Atwood & Suburban water heaters & Furnace "007" RV Systems & Appliances 1 08-07-2010 10:37 PM

» Virginia Campgrounds

Reviews provided by


Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:39 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.