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05-27-2015, 11:37 AM
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Senior Member
Workhorse Chassis Owner
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Palisade CO
Posts: 3,588
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Here is some info on dissolving times of some brands. Unless you dump very soon after using the toilet it looks like any brand will be okay since the worst ones dissolve in less than a couple of minutes.
We used whatever my wife liked for 11 full time years with no problems.
Brand...........................................Di ssolving Time in Seconds
(lowest is best)
Charmin Plus 1-Ply..................................9
MD 2-Ply............................................... ....9
Coronet 2-Ply..........................................12
Angel Soft 2-Ply......................................12
Scott 1-Ply..............................................1 7
Soft 'N Gentle 1-Ply ...............................18
Soft Weve 1-Ply.....................................20
Marcal 1-Ply...........................................20
Soft 'N Gentle 2-Ply...............................21
Seventh Generation 2-Ply.....................21
Quilted Northern Super 2-Ply ...............69
Charmin Ultra 2-Ply ..............................77
Cottonelle 1-Ply ....................................96
Charmin 1-Ply .....................................180
The TPs with an Excellent disintegration rating from a Aug 2000 Consumer Report article are:
Albertson's Soft Choice Ultra
Safeway Select Softly Ultra
Quilted Northern Ultra Soft
Quilted Nothern Soft Prints
Target
Kroger
Angel Soft
Charmin Plus with Unscented Natural Aloe
SoftWeve
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05-27-2015, 12:39 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2010
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Use what ever toilet paper you use in your home. This is a HOLDING tank, not a septic tank. When you open the black tank valve the toilet paper will come out. We have used Charmin Ultra soft for 6 years in two different class A and never had a problem. Then do a good fresh water flush.
As far as having the generator running and the roof air conditioning on, we do it all the time. Here in Florida the dash air will not suffice. If people have to worry about gas mileage then maybe they need to stay home. Gas mileage is what it is.
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05-27-2015, 03:49 PM
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#17
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Spartan Chassis
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Sterling Heights, MI
Posts: 2,723
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As others on here have said, run the genny and use the roof air. It's good to run the genny under a load. As for TP, we buy Scott's. If it's septic tank safe, it's OK in the black tank. All it is is a portable septic tank.
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2010 Ventana 4333
Spartan MM w/Cummins 360 ISC
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05-27-2015, 03:53 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: SoCal
Posts: 15,749
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Scott's 1000 here. Works well from all aspects, including ok for the black tank.
Sure, running the air conditioning via the generator while traveling is ok. Do it often.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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05-27-2015, 04:52 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Jamesville, NY
Posts: 296
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Kirkland's TP works fine for me, but I dump and clean my black tank after every trip.
2014 Keystone Outback Tavel Trailer
2012 Ram 1500
Retired Navy
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2022 Forest River NoBo 19.8
2022 Honda Ridgeline
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05-27-2015, 05:46 PM
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Senior Member
Newmar Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Today? Clayton, North Carolina
Posts: 5,093
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Caburke.... I'm with koda59-- your black tank is a holding tank, not a septic tank. The key to free flowing usage is plenty of water use, not flimsy paper. I'm of the belief that using the flimsy single ply paper is a false economy and pointless tactic. In most cases you wind up using two or three times as much just to do the job.
So.... 1) NO
2) YES
Fulltiming since '12
2002 DSDP 40, FL, Cat 3126
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Fulltimers since June, 2012
2002 Dutch Star 40, Freightliner, Cat 3126, 2004 Element
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05-27-2015, 10:40 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Denton, TX, 76207
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We use the softest TP we can find. Lots of water and flush the tank well. On the AC question, we put a curtain (using sofa throws) behind the seats across the coach. This helps isolate the cab for AC. Running AC And Gen? No problem if you need to
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2008 Newmar Essex-4514
2009 Honda CRV
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05-27-2015, 10:58 PM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: northern IL
Posts: 2,557
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We boondocks all the time at race tracks and our gen gets a work out to the tune of 300 hours per year. I start it when we leave the driveway and shut it down a week later when we pull back in. The only time it shuts down is for an oil change every 50 hours if we are racing for longer than a couple days. I should say it only runs full time like that during the summer. I bought a motorhome to be comfortable just like home so if we are not plugged in and we need air, the gen is running. As far as tp goes, the same rule applies. I want it just like home so I use whatever it is my wife buys for the house. I can tell you first hand that it dissolves as then i get home i dump into our septic and i can see what comes out and there isn't much left of any paper.
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05-27-2015, 11:22 PM
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Senior Member
Winnebago Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: Nomadic - Currently Near Lassen NF
Posts: 679
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mojoracing
We boondocks all the time at race tracks and our gen gets a work out to the tune of 300 hours per year. I start it when we leave the driveway and shut it down a week later when we pull back in. The only time it shuts down is for an oil change every 50 hours if we are racing for longer than a couple days. I should say it only runs full time like that during the summer. I bought a motorhome to be comfortable just like home so if we are not plugged in and we need air, the gen is running. As far as tp goes, the same rule applies. I want it just like home so I use whatever it is my wife buys for the house. I can tell you first hand that it dissolves as then i get home i dump into our septic and i can see what comes out and there isn't much left of any paper.
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Eeeew gross, you look at it
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05-28-2015, 08:02 AM
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Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Oct 2014
Posts: 184
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I didn't read all the responses on the A/C, but look at it this way. How much fuel does your dash air take to operate? Now, how much does the genset take to operate? I'm pretty sure the genset takes about a gallon an hour, and you're running two roof airs (or whatever air you have) and cooling the entire coach, not just the front area. Another benefit, when you get there, the coach is already cool throughout. The dash air will take just about the same fuel, but it doesn't have the added benefit of the roof airs.
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There are no secrets to success. It's the result of preparation, hard work and learning from mistakes.
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05-28-2015, 09:14 AM
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Senior Member
Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Aug 2014
Posts: 470
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RV toilet paper and yes on the generator to run the AC's Why not be comfortable?
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2015 Winnebago Tour 42 QD
Ferndale, Arkansas
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05-28-2015, 09:53 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Gulf Coast, Alabama
Posts: 2,450
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spinn
We use the softest TP we can find. Lots of water and flush the tank well. On the AC question, we put a curtain (using sofa throws) behind the seats across the coach. This helps isolate the cab for AC. Running AC And Gen? No problem if you need to
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Same here on both counts.
We have J-hooks on both sides of the coach, just behind the front seats which hold the divider when we want to use it. Two sheets and a rope (loops on both ends) used as a curtain rod, making the sheets meet in the center of the aisle for pass-through ease. Dash A/C works well with this plan.
An hour before stopping for lunch, we crank the gennie and turn on the front A/C unit in order to cool the cabin.
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2003 American Eagle, 59K miles
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05-28-2015, 12:48 PM
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Senior Member
Monaco Owners Club
Join Date: Apr 2012
Posts: 260
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Quote:
Originally Posted by spinn
We use the softest TP we can find. Lots of water and flush the tank well. On the AC question, we put a curtain (using sofa throws) behind the seats across the coach. This helps isolate the cab for AC. Running AC And Gen? No problem if you need to
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We hung a curtain behind our seats too. Joke about how it separates cockpit from coach! It really does help keep the driver's area cooler.
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2001 Monaco Dynasty Regent DSO FD - 40 ft DP with Tag Axle - Towing a 2003 Jeep Wrangler
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