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Old 11-19-2015, 05:12 PM   #15
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Do you know Jay Lamm? He's built quite an empire around racing unlikely vehicles....you and he could rule the world together
Hi Anthony - no, I do not know Jay. Sounds like I need to find him!!

This thread has taken a twist that I did not anticipate. I thought all those guys that talk about how fast their rig is and how they can beat anything to the top of the hill would jump in. Instead, we seem to have most of the folks that are like me - in no rush, certainly not running full throttle up the hills, and perfectly happy to be moving at all.
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My hot rod Travco can take any school bus or fedex truck in my town when leaving the light. Where do I sign up?
HA!! I can practically see it!!
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I'll just stay at my 62mph speed and let anyone pass me that wants to.
62 mph is a pretty awesome speed for most of the big hills I'm familiar with! You may be one of those racer types and not even know it!
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5Star Tuners says my gas V-10 has 392 hp. and 532 tq. My MH weights less than 16.5K loaded. I don't know of any Diesels with that power ratio.
My next motorhome will probably be a diesel because of its new size/gross wt.. (unless this new PSI gas engine is for real)
Ahh, we seem to have a bite!! I'm not sure what all those numbers are but I suspect we all know what actually hauls an RV up the hill --- dollar bills, lots of dollar bills.
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5Star Tuners says my gas V-10 has 392 hp. and 532 tq. My MH weights less than 16.5K loaded. I don't know of any Diesels with that power ratio.
Oh, thought of more...

Given the photo below, how much of the "power" do you still have available at this location? (read the sign on the building - 11,312' MSL)

Actually, it doesn't matter too much as the corners are all about 25 mph corners. I have 6" diameter aftermarket sway bars, urethane bushings, lowering kit, super-duper handling kit, and mega wide patch performance tires - my Dutch Star would blow you on the corners!

(Hope it is clear - this is all in fun - I am laughing with every post!!)
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IdahoSRT10 I don't have a problem with the thread title
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The thread title is "Race-Gasser vs. Diesel" If you don't agree with the title why not start your OWN thread
I was just agreeing with NevadaNick
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Safely carrying the weight has nothing to do with what powers the motorhome. Economics and comfort play into the decision between gas and diesel more than the race. Only my experiance and opinion.
Race on!
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Hi Old-Biscuit,

Looks like the only data we are missing is the length of the climb (miles and/or feet of altitude gained) and approximate actual weight at the time (or is that what you are claiming with GCW?).

The "length" of the climb is important as a good bit of distance/time is important to represent sustained climbing ability.
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Actually, it doesn't matter too much as the corners are all about 25 mph corners. I have 6" diameter aftermarket sway bars, urethane bushings, lowering kit, super-duper handling kit, and mega wide patch performance tires - my Dutch Star would blow you on the corners!

(Hope it is clear - this is all in fun - I am laughing with every post!!)
Trailing throttle oversteer in a DP has to as bad as an old 911 I assume? I find my gasser to push a bit when doing a slalom around the orange construction cones, so probably need to soften up my front bar a bit.......

Did you get Hoosier to make those tires special for you, they must have cost a bundle. I was hoping Michelin would come out with an RV version of the Sport Cup......



I tell my old track buddies, my MH will pull 0.2Gs lateral, then flip over on its side like a dead armadillo, and my braking point for turn 10A on Road Atlanta is the exit of turn 7.
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ROFL!! That is hilarious D&S!


The real problem I have is that my cat refuses to be belted in - he flies all of the rig while on the slalom course!!
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Hi Old-Biscuit,

Looks like the only data we are missing is the length of the climb (miles and/or feet of altitude gained) and approximate actual weight at the time (or is that what you are claiming with GCW?).

The "length" of the climb is important as a good bit of distance/time is important to represent sustained climbing ability.
I'm not Old Biscuit, but I would suggest that little hill in SW AZ that the automakers can use for the buncha-letters specification/certification/fancy thingy. I think it's called Davis Dam Grade?

I would also like to suggest that if anyone is going to go so far as to really race rigs up that hill, that it be done with a full tank of fuel. Having only enough fuel to get to the top would be dangerous if you were to run out, and since RVs and TVs are all different, might as well give them all the same handicap by having on a full or nearly full load of fuel (if fuel is not available nearby, only have used enough fuel to get to the start).

I guess all that is left is to say to the competitors to look up how much a speeding ticket costs in that part of the country so you know how much these shenanigans might really cost you.
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We didn't race this summer but I will tell you my story.
We traveled to Glacier nat. park from southwest Iowa this summer, I know my dp is equipped with the smallest diesel engine you can get 5.9 300hp but it works for me.
We pulled a 18' enclosed trailer with 3 Harley baggers about 900lbs each.
Our friend with a 35' foot 2000 class A with v10 pulled a 16' enclosed trailer with 2 Harley baggers @ 900lbs each.
On our way up the mountains he would pull away from me with what appeared to be ease, but he did complain that his dash a/c would cut out on the long climbs and his engine temp would start climbing.
My MH would not keep up, but my a/c never kicked out and my engine temp never really climbed to a point I was worried.
Coming down the mountains the exhaust brake worked great and he had to ride his brakes most of the time.
My tank holds 90 gals. his 70 gals. He needed to stop more than me and he usually had trouble finding a pump he could navigate his MH and trailer through, while I just used the truck lanes or RV lanes if they had them.
Overall I enjoy my quiet and comfortable ride over his gasser, yes he could probably beat me in a race but I'm more about the ride than how fast I get there.
Just thought I would share my tale.
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HA!! I can practically see it!!
I'm still trying to get one over on the Red Bull delivery truck but I need catch him day dreaming at the light.
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