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Old 11-23-2015, 07:13 PM   #29
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Thinking maybe I should do a 500 shot of NOS next time I encounter a DP on a hill

Seriously thought... My 08 Bounder 38p workhorse vs my soon to be X I laws 40ft 2009 discovery.... They would walk or run away from me on any incline. I wouldn't use cruise due to not wanting the RV to shift down to much... Better mpg that way and even if I did give it full throttle, I couldn't keep up. Their toad was a Ford Escape vs my wrangler unlimited....

The ride and noise didn't bother me one but on my Bounder however going longer on fill ups and also being able to use truck stops to fill up is the biggest reason I will get a DP next.

One of the reasons I went with the workhorse is its trans brake.....
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Old 11-24-2015, 10:54 AM   #30
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Kinda fun thread .......
I've recently (over 3 years) with two different trucks and 20 to 22,000 pounds combined weight. An '06 V10 gasser which did just fine up long steep hill but for sure wouldn't win any race before it ran out of gear shifts to that terminal 50-60 mph speed. Now it's an '11 diesel. That one doesn't run out of gear shifts plus it will make it to the top of most hills going as fast as I want it to - up to my usual 65mph or a LOT faster if that was my quest. The diesel with the 39 gallon fuel tank would do that hill climb at the usual 12-13 mpg while that gasser, at 6-7mpg on a 28 gallon tank (you planned your next gas stop just as you were leaving a gas station). If I really feel the need for speed, my avatar car fills that out very well
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Thinking maybe I should do a 500 shot of NOS next time I encounter a DP on a hill
Hmm.... yes, maybe NOS is the answer for the gassers!! I wonder if any manufacturers include this on their options list???
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Heck most of you guys drive 65 or under so I think a 4 cylinder out of a old pinto would be more than you need Oh that's right you've got to haul all your crap and your luxury suv to drive to the store, better make it a v6 out of a ranger...
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Heck most of you guys drive 65 or under so I think a 4 cylinder out of a old pinto would be more than you need Oh that's right you've got to haul all your crap and your luxury suv to drive to the store, better make it a v6 out of a ranger...
I don't care who you are thats funny right there.
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Old 11-25-2015, 07:45 PM   #34
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As long as the engine is outside of the pinto. I won't drive the pinto, but I'll try to get the engine to light my fire.

(See what I did there?)
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I don't care who's faster than me.

.....I have a hot wife.
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Old 11-26-2015, 07:38 PM   #36
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Pics man, pics!...
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I don't care who's faster than me.

.....I have a hot wife.
Perhaps she can be the starter for the race.
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Race? I'll win by doing 65mph with 1000+ miles on one tank.
Nuff said!
Win what? I see alot of diesel guys talk the talk... but never seen one test the limits of their fuel economy.
I can guarantee you wont be seeing double digit fuel economy.
My gasser has gone 550 miles on a tank... towing a trailer at that.

Diesel pickup owners are even funnier. Never has "operational cost" been in such denial. Fuel pumps, oil pumps, injectors...etc.

Sure diesel rigs are nice... but the repair bills are not. And there is no denying they are expensive to operate & repair.
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I will take the Pinto engine for a pony motor to start the diesel engine.
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Sure diesel rigs are nice... but the repair bills are not. And there is no denying they are expensive to operate & repair.
You're implying they will need expensive repairs, but that is not always the case, just like a gas engine.

I plan to drive mine a half a million miles. It's easily capable of that, if not much more. It might take me thirty years, but it could be done, with good care and maintenance. And after half a million miles, the engine will still likely be worth more than the same vehicle equipped with a gas engine.

If I was concerned about the potential cost of repairs, I picked the wrong lifestyle.
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Just a thought about the economics of diesel, could all those large trucks, UPS, Fed Ex, etc. be wrong? Perhaps if they re-evaluated they could be making more money if they switched to gas? I somehow think they know what they're doing.


Just my 2c.


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Just a thought about the economics of diesel, could all those large trucks, UPS, Fed Ex, etc. be wrong? Perhaps if they re-evaluated they could be making more money if they switched to gas? I somehow think they know what they're doing.


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You are referencing the exact model that makes a diesel more economical. Being driven 8,10, 12 hours a day, every day, and 10s of thousands a miles a year.

Motor homes are exactly the opposite in most cases. Driven a few thousand miles a year, and sitting for days or months on end.

Sure there are the uses for a diesel powered coach that meet that model too, race teams, entertainers, etc., where the coach goes back and forth across the country on a regular basis which is why they often have commercial based busses (Prevost for instance). Or of course, the few that really need the pulling capacity.

Otherwise, it's just the mass of a 38-45' coach that demands a diesel's power to move it today, it's not necessarily a more economical or practical power train for most motor homes as they are used my most people....
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