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06-10-2011, 08:50 PM
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Hello All, a question for those of you who have used Red Max Pro on your MH. Do you need to strip all the wax off the MH before using Red Max or just make sure it is good and clean.
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06-10-2011, 09:13 PM
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Yes wax needs to be removed. I washed using dawn soap. I washed again using dawn soap and a narrow brush to scrub the placed where wax builds up. I washed another time using dawn soap. I didn't wash one after another because I was going to try something different but then read about red max. Now I washed using bar keepers friend with some dawn soap and a 3m scrubble, 1000 grit but i am not sure what I used was 1000 grit. then I washed with TSP using the brush and handle like usual washing. 4 coats of red max and wow it looks great. All of this was easier than the 3 waxing jobs on it last year and atleast 2 times each year since 2001.
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06-10-2011, 09:52 PM
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Washed with dawn first. I used "Magic Eraser" and clorox cleanup. Then came back with windex to remove the Clorox cleaner. The magic easer sponge works great to get of tiny spots of tar and goad grim and bugs. Use alot of clean rags wipe off the clorox and windex. I used a new micro cloth and a squirt bottle to apply 4 coats of Red Max 3.
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06-11-2011, 09:22 AM
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Vinegar and/or ammonia in water is a more effective wax stripper than Dawn. Dawn is a better general degreaser, though.
The Red Max is just a shine, so you should do as much prep as is needed to make the surface clean and free of old finsihes, dirt, streaks, etc. Removing oxidized paint or fiberglass is also recommended or you just get slightly shiny oxidation.
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06-11-2011, 10:04 AM
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Hello again, I had bought the Red Max stripper when I purchased the #3 but wasn't sure if it would be to strong to use on the graphics and fiberglass.
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06-11-2011, 10:26 AM
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I have not read about anybody using the stripper so maybe somebody will come on and help with your question. i don't feel the stripper is needed because of the other products that do the job. my guess is the stripper will remove the red max if you feel it needs to be removed. I hope the red max works for long term because it really works short term. I can't take my eyes off out alpenlite and it didn't have a problem as some have mentioned.
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06-11-2011, 10:29 AM
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Ammonia and water will do an excellent job removing the old wax.
Bar Keepers Friend, a non-abrasive powdered cleanser with oxalic acid, applied with a sponge or white scrubby will do all the oxidation removal you need.
Use a final soapy wash (Dawn is good) to make sure all the BKF is removed and rinse thoroughly.
Apply 4 or 5 thin coats of Red Max Pro #3 and don't forget your sun glasses!
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06-11-2011, 10:32 AM
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The Red Max stripper is to remove runs or bubbles you missed wiping up when applying the Red Max Pro #3. It shouldn't affect your stripes and decals, but its not necessary for prepping.
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06-11-2011, 02:18 PM
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With the BKF is it best to use the original powder? Or the new liquid stuff?
Definitely tempted to try this Redmax method, as the compounding is a pain in the rear! Plus expensive.
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06-11-2011, 03:10 PM
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My guess is it is new to all of us and knowing what is best might not be know but I used the power and some dawn soap to give the bar keepers friend some moisture and sprinkled some of the BKF on the 3M pad and washed the entire fifth this way.. Everything I did seemed to be ok and it does look good.
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06-11-2011, 03:26 PM
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Pauland Ro, I'd use the original Bar Keepers Friend, partly because it cheaper. It worked better for us than TSP (which has been my go-to tough cleanser) at getting off the black winter mold/crud. Hardly any scrubbing required.
Absolutely you should try the Red Max method. Everybody knows compounding and waxing only lasts a few months, if that. Lots and lots of folks have now used the RMP over several seasons, with nothing but good stuff to say about its durability and good looks.
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Where can I buy the 3M 1000 Grit White Scrubbies?
07-29-2011, 05:50 AM
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I have looked everywhere (Wal-Mart, Costco, Home Depot, Lowes, NAPA and Paint supply houses) for the 3M 1000 Grit White Scrubbies and cannot find them. Any ideas? Thanks much.
Wileyman
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07-29-2011, 08:05 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wileyman
I have looked everywhere (Wal-Mart, Costco, Home Depot, Lowes, NAPA and Paint supply houses) for the 3M 1000 Grit White Scrubbies and cannot find them. Any ideas? Thanks much.
Wileyman
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I bought the 3M scrubbies at Lowes BUT no where on it said it was 1000 grit. I had light scratches on the surface but they were gone after the red max pro #3.
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07-29-2011, 08:32 AM
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If you use the Bar Keepers Friend with a wet sponge, no need for scrubbies, either green or white.
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