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06-02-2017, 09:56 AM
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Junior Member
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Residential Fridge Power
I just purchased a new Sierra 372 LOK with residential fridge. Obviously I have a pure sine wave inverter to power the fridge when shore power is unplugged.
My question is this:
The fridge stays plugged into the same outlet at all times. Dealer told me to turn the inverter off before plugging shore power up. And vice versa.
How does the outlet get power from both sources?
Does it hurt to leave the inverter on with shore power for short periods of time (let's say I forgot to turn it off for 30 minutes while setting the rig up)?
Thanks
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06-02-2017, 10:03 AM
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Senior Member
Country Coach Owners Club Solo Rvers Club iRV2 No Limits Club
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Location: Vancouver, WA
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Inverter will have a bypass circuit (transfer switch). When on shore power the 120 goes directly to the circuits in the rig.
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06-02-2017, 10:13 AM
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Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
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Many leave the inverter on all the time. When connected to shore power it's circuits just idle since the reefer is then powered by the incoming 120 volts. Turn it off if you want or if you are going to be connected to AC for more than a few hours.
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Palm Island, Florida
2015 Georgetown 335DS
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06-02-2017, 10:27 AM
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Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Point Pleasant Beach, NJ
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I leave my inverter on all the time. If you on shore power you inverter becomes disconnected.
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06-02-2017, 11:23 AM
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Senior Member
Tiffin Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2014
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I leave my inverter on all the time also. Unless you know for sure you have a pure sine wave inverter, you can run many residential refrigerators on MSW inverters. My previous coach had a MSW inverter with a residential refrigerator.
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06-02-2017, 01:31 PM
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"Formerly Diplomat Don"
Newmar Owners Club
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Location: Moorpark, Ca.
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As "Mr_D" stated, your inverter has a bypass. This is what distinguishes more expensive inverters from the less expensive models. When your coach is using battery power, the inverter converts the 12 volt DC power to 110 volts. Again, the better quality inverters convert DC power to pure sine wave power, which is what you get in your house. Cheap models convert the power to modified sine wave power, which isn't as clean as PSW and can ruin some electronics.
When you plug your RV into shore power, your inverter "passes" that power through the inverter and tells the inverter to basically go to sleep until needed again. If you were to look closely at the 110 volt wiring in your RV, one or two of the 110 volt circuits are going directly to your inverter. These are same circuits that continue on through the inverter to all the outlets that your inverter powers.
This is a little long winded, but you should know how your system works, so if there is an issue, you know where to look. Especially helpful to know is that your inverter also has circuit breaker(S) on it, just like your 110 volt circuit breakers you have in your RV. Often, if you trip a breaker, especially if it was tripped by something connected to one of the inverter outlets, it may be a breaker on the inverter that has tripped. Locate your inverter and identify the circuit breaker(s) for future emergencies.
Lastly, leaving your inverter on all the time does not hurt the inverter. Actually, it's safer to leave it on. Sometimes, especially at night, you could have a power outage at a campground and not know it. By having the inverter on, the refer would seamlessly continue to run.
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06-02-2017, 02:16 PM
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Fleetwood Owners Club Ford Super Duty Owner
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Our inverter never gets turned off. There is a on/off button on its control panel - have never used it.
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2011 Tiffin Phaeton 40QTH (Cummins ISC/Freightliner)
Flat towing a modified 2005 Jeep (Rubicon Wrangler)
Previously a 2002 Fleetwood Pace Arrow 37A and a 1995 Safari Trek 2830.
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06-02-2017, 02:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Foley AL
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I turn my MSW inverter off when on shore power. Why? .... because I have a few small appliances plugged into inverter outlets and they aren't happy with MSW. For instance, a small newer style desk fan. Some "stuff" has idle circuits that aren't happy with MSW. I don't want them on the inverter if I drop shore power. I unplug them when traveling and the inverter is in use. Found out the hard way ... the smoke escaped from a nice new fan that was turned off but plugged in. My soundbar doesn't like the inverter either.
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06-02-2017, 06:15 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: May 2011
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Residential Fridge Power
Our outlets work whether using the inverter or on shore power. We keep the inverter off when on shore power and only turn it on when we are dry camping. We installed the inverter/charger ourselves and put in a sub panel so the outlets would work either way. We also have a transfer switch and an onboard generator for our 5th wheel.
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06-03-2017, 07:56 AM
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club American Coach Owners Club
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I turn my inverter on only when we are going to use it for sure...like on the road. I called Magnum, the tech said on or off, it's up to us, the inverter doesn't care.
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06-03-2017, 02:34 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: May 2012
Posts: 7
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Thanks for the replies. I wad hoping to hear that you could leave it on but have no experience with them.
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