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Old 02-15-2007, 10:48 AM   #1
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I found this link on another RV site, thought it would be helpful to iRV2 members.

Here in NC, I carry a Non-CDL Class 'A' License because my trailer has a GVWR of over 10,000 pounds. Follow the link, it discusses how various states have differing requirements.

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Individuals operating large recreational vehicles often ask if a special driver's license is required. Because driver's licenses are issued by each state (and Washington D.C.), the rules vary.

We have researched RV driver's license requirements for all fifty states plus D.C. and compiled the summary below. Our primary source of information were the official driver's license web sites for each jurisdiction. In cases of insufficient or conflicting information, we called the appropriate departments to confirm.
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Old 02-15-2007, 10:48 AM   #2
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I found this link on another RV site, thought it would be helpful to iRV2 members.

Here in NC, I carry a Non-CDL Class 'A' License because my trailer has a GVWR of over 10,000 pounds. Follow the link, it discusses how various states have differing requirements.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">RV Driver's License Requirements

Individuals operating large recreational vehicles often ask if a special driver's license is required. Because driver's licenses are issued by each state (and Washington D.C.), the rules vary.

We have researched RV driver's license requirements for all fifty states plus D.C. and compiled the summary below. Our primary source of information were the official driver's license web sites for each jurisdiction. In cases of insufficient or conflicting information, we called the appropriate departments to confirm. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:24 AM   #3
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In Texas, a non-CDL Class A is required only if the truck has a GCWR =&gt;26,001 and the trailer has a GVWR &gt;10,000. Ref. Texas Transportation Code, 521.081. It reads:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">SUBCHAPTER D. CLASSIFICATION OF DRIVER'S LICENSES

521.081. CLASS A LICENSE.

A Class A driver's license authorizes the holder of the license to operate:

(1) a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more; or

(2) a combination of vehicles that has a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or more, if the gross vehicle weight rating of any vehicle or vehicles in tow is more than 10,000 pounds.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

The TTC defines GCWR as:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">"Gross combination weight rating" means the value specified by the manufacturer as the loaded weight of a combination or articulated vehicle or, if the manufacturer has not specified a value, the sum of the gross vehicle weight rating of the power unit and the total weight of the towed unit or units and any load on a towed unit. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

A non-CDL Class B license covers the large motorhome with or without a toad &lt;=10,000 lbs as shown below:
<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> 521.082. CLASS B LICENSE.

(a) A Class B driver's license authorizes the holder of the license to operate:

(1) a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating that is more than 26,000 pounds;

(2) a vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,000 pounds or more towing:

(A) a vehicle, other than a farm trailer, with a gross vehicle weight rating that is not more than 10,000 pounds; or

(B) a farm trailer with a gross vehicle weight rating that is not more than 20,000 pounds; and

(3) a bus with a seating capacity of 24 passengers or more.

(b) For the purposes of Subsection (a)(3), seating capacity is computed in accordance with Section 502.162, except that the operator's seat is included in the computation.

Acts 1995, 74th Leg., ch. 165, 1, eff. Sept. 1, 1995 </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

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Good job. I've tried to explain this to quite a few people in PA, lots of bad advice and info out there. I've seen reference to dealers telling folks they don't need a class B for their new 28,000# MH. It seems like most of the confusion is over CDL and non commercial classes A&B.
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Old 02-15-2007, 11:57 AM   #5
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by RustyJC:
In Texas, a non-CDL Class A is required only if the truck has a GCWR =&gt;26,001 and the trailer has a GVWR &gt;10,000. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Rusty, that's interesting..... page 1-4 (quoted below)of the Texas DL Handbook reads differently.

No question that the statutes would trump what's printed in the handbook. Are you sure that TX statute hasn't been reworded?

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content"> Class A driver license permits a person to drive any vehicle or combination
of vehicles with a gross combination weight rating of 26,001 pounds or
more, provided the gross vehicle weight rating of the vehicle(s) being towed
is in excess of 10,000 pounds; including a vehicle included in Class B or
Class C, except a motorcycle or moped. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>
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The statute governs, as you say. Believe it or not, the 2 really say the same thing as the Class B provision picks up the large motorhome (GVWR &gt;26,000) that's duplicated in the Class A statute. A Class A holder can drive a Class A, B or C vehicle. A Class B holder can drive a Class B or C vehicle. In other words, you can drive vehicles of the class specified on your license or lower, except for a motorcycle or moped which requires a Class M endorsement. My license is a Class CM, for example.

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I tried to get some clarification on this several months ago and you can get the real run around if you ever get to taqlk to a person. I finally spoke to a really helpful lady DPS sargent in Hempstead. With my truck, the GVWR =11,500# and my trailer GVWR=14,400#. My combined GVWR is 25,900#, or 100# below the limit. The trooper said the state statute allowed me to drive with my class C license.
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Don't know if we need a Special License but some sort of training could be needed for fivers and MoHo drivers. Would like to see the insurance companies offer big discount for proper instruction.

It is not only owners that benefit from training. Last week a bicyclist was killed by a MoHo making a right hand turn here in Mesa, AZ. Very sad as the owners of the brand new coach were in a car following their coach that was being delivered to their house by an employee of the dealer.
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Ken,

The statute that I quoted above is clear that the GCWR is the manufacturer's rated GCWR. The sum of the GVWR of the truck and the laden weight (not the GVWR) of the towed unit only comes into play if there is no manufacturer's GCWR for the truck.

This just illustrates that even the people charged with enforcing the law aren't always clear on what the law says. That's why I carry a copy of these TTC statutes in my truck.

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