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Old 10-12-2012, 03:00 AM   #29
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Excuse me ???!!! You say that so casually! Yes, beheadings ... 19 here, 30 there, 10 bodies in a van, 20 in a grave, 30 at a ranch. Wedding guests slaughtered - in the middle of a public town square - oh, sorry, only 15 or so! Shootouts in public places, including down a main tourist area, wounding passersby.
What counts is how many foreigners driving motorhomes and minding their own business are among those numbers..


If I applied the same criteria in deciding whether to RV around the US, I'd probably stay home. How many firearms deaths each year in the US. How many road fatalities, how many muggings, robberies etc etc.

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Old 10-12-2012, 03:38 AM   #30
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Apparently an American driving their RV into Mexico has immunity from the drug war and it's violence. Must have something to do with the drug lords not wanting to hurt tourism in their country......

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Old 10-12-2012, 04:12 AM   #31
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95% of gringos I meet are Canadians.
While in Spanish it simply identifies a foreigner, without any negative connotation,[1] in English the word is often considered offensive or disparaging.[2]
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:05 AM   #32
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Originally Posted by DBeauchamp View Post
While in Spanish it simply identifies a foreigner, without any negative connotation,[1] in English the word is often considered offensive or disparaging.[2]
Like it or not when you are in Mexico you are a gringo...
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:26 AM   #33
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Apparently an American driving their RV into Mexico has immunity from the drug war and it's violence. Must have something to do with the drug lords not wanting to hurt tourism in their country......

Is that a bonified guarentee that you will not be shot at or taken hostage for whatever purposes........I don't think so.
Been in to many countries where we were the target because we were Americans.....we could never wear our uniforms outside the gates in Spain, Greece, Italy, Germany, Azores, Turkey, this was back in the 70's and 80's.
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Old 10-12-2012, 10:51 AM   #34
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Not for me thank you. I'll fly down to a resort,but have no inclination to drive our mh down there! Even when Nascar went down there several years ago they were escorted by armed guards in a convoy. What about WallyDocking can you do that down there?(that might be a game changer)
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Old 10-12-2012, 11:20 AM   #35
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According to the latest statistics I could find the homicide rate in the US is 5.0 per 100,000.
The Mexico homicide rate is 5.6 per 100,000.
The US has 313 million according to census while Mexico has 115 million.
Using those figures, which country has the most deaths by homicide?

We have been traveling to Mexico for 40+ years and have never felt unsafe.
It always has amazed us as to how many seem to point at Mexico as being unsafe for travel and ignore what happens in our own country.
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Before this thread becomes too bogged down with "danger" statistics, I'll add a couple of points based upon +10yrs of living in Cabo and multiple trips up & down the Baja. I also took a 32' fifth wheel back & forth from Cabo in 2000 & again in 2001.

As much as I love the Baja, I would not recommend anyone take an RV there and it has nothing to do with gangsters or banditos!

1) The ROAD ....while it has had many improvements since 2000 it is not RV suitable. There are many stretches where the total road width is 18ft. Assuming your 8ft / 6" RV tires on right-on the edge of the road and the oncoming 8.5ft semi is also perfectly positioned ...you have no more than 12" of clearance. There is NO margin for error as there is NO shoulder & the edge the edge of the road drops off about 3ft.

To get some perspective on this, find the smallest secondary highway road in your area and measure from the edge of the road (including shoulder) to the center line...even the smallest is usually at least 12ft. NOW... Ask yourself if you want to drive 1000 miles on a road 3ft smaller?

2) Break-downs - Your rig had better be in very good condition, since there are no RV Dealers, Camping World shops, or RV related services for over 1000miles once you hit Cabo. Coach-Net or AAA will not come to your rescue when you have problems, need a tow or a 22.5 tire for a Class A.

3) Camping - Other than the "magic" of free beach boondocking in Mulege or Loreto the existing campgrounds are awful! The POWER throughout Mexico is joke... in our home in Cabo we don't have one single clock that can keep time... The WATER is always questionable.. & the campgrounds in general are little more than parking lots.

BUT hey...it's an wonderful adventure... the people, the food, the atmosphere, the joy of experience is right on your door step. I would just suggest that for your first trip... Unhook your toad or drop your trailer and just take your car.... check things out and see if you want to bring the RV on your next trip.
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Wow, for $520 per month I could stay in Florida and still have money left over.
You must be talking about Northern Florida from Dec to April.
Southern Florida and down into the Keys will be much more $$$.
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Old 10-12-2012, 03:09 PM   #38
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I was limiting my statements to the areas of which I have personal knowledge, specifically the State of Sonora and more specifically San Carlos.

There have been one or two incidents which concern everyone but I believe the area is as safe, or safer, than Florida.

For myself and my family we will travel and stay in San Carlos again this winter as we have in the past 9 or 10 years. Will we be mindful or our surroundings and exercise smart travel practices? Of course.

The RV park I mentioned has none of the problems that were noted as existing in Baja. The power is reliable and the water potable. The place is clean, nicely landscaped and well managed. It would be a good destination for anyone considering travel to Mexico but with some concerns. It's a 5 hour drive from the border on a federally monitored toll road that is 2 lanes in each direction with a wide median between. It is in very good condtion, better than California roads.

As far as Rocky Point it is closer to the border which, in my opinion, is not enough to recommend it as a destination. I personally don't go anymore because it is crowded and dirty. It has none of the natural beauty that makes me look forward to my Mexican winters.

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